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[–] Morbo 0 points 62 points (+62|-0) ago 

I've been on Waterfox since the earliest announcement that Mozilla would be crippling the extension system. I refuse to browse without the safety provided by NoScript, uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger. Mozilla neutering the addons and eliminating the protections provided by these critical extensions is just plain suicide. They will be making the web less secure with this stupid move. I dislike Chrome for the same reason in that they are moving closer to removing any real safety and security in our browser choices. It's time for a new browser option that is not simply a fork of an existing project run by a company with a profit above security mentality.

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[–] Hydrocephalus 2 points 28 points (+30|-2) ago 

Have you considered brave? It's made by the creator of firefox, after he got exiled for wrongthink.

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[–] nonservator 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

Yet Another Chrome Skin. No thanks. Fuck Google. Seriously, all these people writing new operating systems and nobody finds it necessary to write a new, non-cancerous rendering engine?

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[–] Morbo 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

I don't see Brave as a solution here. It's not enough of what I want in a browser. I just don't see it as a contender and may never if there is no strong blocking built in or at least a low-level extension system to allow blocking tools from other parties. Waterfox with NoScript, ubLock Origin and Privacy Badger will stay on my machines until there is something better.

p.s. - I see you were downvoated before I read your comment, but that was not me.

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[–] bloodguard 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There are worse things than ads on web pages these days and Brave doesn't really give you a good way to block them.

  • Asshat image carousels that you can't stop
  • Autoplay video that keeps playing even as you scroll.
  • Animated images.
  • So many more ...

They'll have to pry my ublock origin out of my cold dead fingers.

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[–] 9113815 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The Pale Moon Dev(s) seem to be the only ones concerned with avoiding this mess. Waterfox guys don't give a shit:

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=15505&p=112135#p112135

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[–] awshidahak 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Maybe true, maybe not. Pale Moon's a fork and it's already radically different than Firefox.

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Consider running web browsers in VirtualBox, if you have the technical knowledge. It may be somewhat costly in terms of disk space, but it can put a pretty solid layer between yourself and shit happening. For a more lightweight solution you might also consider Sandboxie, although it seems like it BSODs a lot in some situations (they may have fixed that, I haven't checked recently).

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[–] ranch-othelioma 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

What about Brave? I've been using that more often now than Firefox with noscript.

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[–] Morbo 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Brave is a deal breaker for me if it can't run NoScript or some equivalent JS blocker. I would want all three main extensions to be there, NoScript, uBlock Origin and Privacy Badger. So far I see nothing suggesting Brave is any better than the other browsers. Sure it blocks some malicious ads, beacons and redirects, but I want more control over blocking and there just doesn't seem to be anything in Brave to allow that. I'll stick with Waterfox until something truly better comes along.

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[–] Pawn 1 points 38 points (+39|-1) ago 

So basically they want to fuck with the main reason people use firefox other than it NOT being chrome? Bold strategy cotton. "Hey guys how about we fuck ourselves over?"

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[–] tribblepuncher 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, this has been the plan for like 2 years almost. I wish I was kidding, but I'm not. They're pretty much going to turn Firefox into a Chrome also-ran. I... very seriously do not understand why they're doing this, other than some fabled compatibility-with-Chrome-extensions fairy, but to get that you end up becoming Yet Another Chrome Clone (YACC).

Now, I want to say one thing - alternative browsers that implement the Chrome engine are A-OK with me, they often do a very good job of it. But this is not Firefox's role. Firefox is there to provide a complete alternative, actual competing technology. If they don't have that, they have nothing worth selling anymore (the fact that they give it away for free does not make it in the slightest bit more attractive, either).

If Firefox doesn't do something to make up for this, they are, frankly, going to whither and die. Considering they seem more interested in political correctness than software at times, that may be for the best.

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[–] Zippy1983 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Fun fact.

If you run many FF profiles (I do to segment uses and addons), new profiles default to auto update, AND invokes it immediately.

Make sure you tweak any new profile offline!

I just updated to latest FF as all the addons I like are working again.

Mainly I now use uMatrix and Profile Spoofer, and https everywhere. uMatrix has awesome power, highly recommended, much better than noscript imo due to per site scopes.

Profile spoofer is great too but ideally it'd have per site scopes, or have its features integrated into umatrix.

I also spotted FF doing loads of calling home etc. Checking for its own blocklists, Google safe searching urls etc. I much rather trust blacklists out there that I can read etc, than FF/Google ones!

Oh and Chromium calls home still. First run and first ip it's going for is Google. What a piece of shit.

Can't anyone make a browser that is passive to the user any more?

Brave is ok but umatrix in FF is better for 'safe' browsing. And isn't their goal to make money from skimming micro transactions users make to pay for websites they like?

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[–] qdir 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] B3bomber 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You should read that shit at the very top concerning WebRTC.

That is one of the first fucking things I disable when I find it in a version of Chromium that allows it. It's DRM added by MPAA/RIAA and serves no purpose. Funny they set Flash to disabled by default though. Click to play is preferred. If I don't want Flash I will uninstall it.

Iridium has Google Safe Browsing enabled by default.

Yeah, I shut that shit off too.

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[–] klobos 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Although this sucks, once again I have to tell people, "Don't enable auto updates for anything for any reason."

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[–] Crensch 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I keep telling people this, then I get the geek squad dweebs saying "Oh you have to update everything all the time! latest updates for SECURITY"

Fuckers need their hands broken.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I always say "show me what you got, but let me choose".

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[–] Kleyno 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I always check what updates my distro is pushing, but when it comes to browsers, if they push something I don't like, I hop ship. World is too dangerous to risk running an old version of any browser, especially when vendors don't offer separate security updates for browsers. It's all or nothing.

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Firefox will implode nearly instantly when they do this thing - I think of the 50+ computers I installed Firefox on, precisely so the extensions could provide enhanced security for normies, as that was the only means to reliably control infection of their machines.

In one year they will lose 95% of their user base.

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[–] PsyOp 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I've been looking for a solid replacement for Firefox...I want nothing more to do with Mozilla and its leftist bias. Besides, their spell-check is fucking awful; mistype 'culinary' and you might get...

culture

cultivate

canopy

coffin

cantaloupe

:D

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[–] Atarian 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Back to Lynx for me then!

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[–] ElDulce 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you haven't already, you should check out VLC in the command line. :)

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[–] 10084487 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Voat.co seems to work with eww. ;-)

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[–] Crensch 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't like updates to damn near anything anymore. Every fucking time it breaks something or chips away at privacy. So what if it's vulnerable? These fucks can't even make a security patch without ruining something.

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