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[–]Jixijenga0 points
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In a sane world, we wouldn't need this. Unfortunately we don't live in one, so we need to legally protect the ability of people to do what they want with something they own which is just fucking ridiculous. It's sad, really.
I wonder if they realize that this is giving them bad press. Seriously. If I was them, I wouldn't go anywhere near a legislation that has the words "Right To".
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It's about control, with enough astroturfing (see: providers making completely unrelated groups campaign against net neutrality, something they obviously don't understand and crumble when you ask) you can make it seem like this legislation is X bogeyman and everyone who hates X should be on Apple's side.
Actually you do own it. That contract? It's for a service that you don't own and agree to use according to conditions listed in the contract.
General Motors and John Deere has been trying for years to prove that a bill of sale means nothing, but they haven't had as much success as they'd like and that's why this legislation is even a thing. What this legislation does is prevent companies from abusing the DMCA and allowing them to continue to make absurd, bullshit claims that you're operating under license.
This is a future problem lawmakers are tackling now and Apple doesn't like it because it won't let them bully people tomorrow. All the companies against it are the same companies who have developed a reputation for being slimy.
He got into some hot water with them already but they haven't taken action. I think it was to do with him and some "secret" manuals that got shown on video.
Yea it's crazy. I feel like they want to push fucking everything to a sevice economy where we don't actually own anything. Cars, computers etc all leased to the user and must be presented to the parent company for upkeep and repair. Not to mention playing right into their planned obsolete rollouts that push everone to their latest and greatest release.
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Yup, things are made to last only a short while. They push an extended warranty on items, so that it will be replaced if it breaks down. I asked someone..."why would I buy an extended warranty for $20, if the item is worth $29? Doesn't make sense to me.
I like this attitude....https://buynothingproject.org/about
Cars is going to be almost impossible, there are too many mechanics in the US that employ too many people. And there have been hard laws done time and time again that dealers can't force you to repair your vehicle at their shops.
When fast food companies adopt this logic, you wont be allowed to open a burger to remove a tomato. You will have to purchase another at full price or pay a fee to have a licensed technician remove it for you.
Best thing I've done for myself in years, get rid of apple cellphone and everything connected to the dam thing. Do not want, need or care about apple. A pain in the butt to quit however....on the phone with them for at least 3/4 of an hour, deleting everything and answering their stupid questions. And yes, it is all about control.
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[–] Jixijenga 0 points 19 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago
In a sane world, we wouldn't need this. Unfortunately we don't live in one, so we need to legally protect the ability of people to do what they want with something they own which is just fucking ridiculous. It's sad, really.
[–] VouvrayCabernet 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
I wonder if they realize that this is giving them bad press. Seriously. If I was them, I wouldn't go anywhere near a legislation that has the words "Right To".
[–] Jixijenga 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
It's about control, with enough astroturfing (see: providers making completely unrelated groups campaign against net neutrality, something they obviously don't understand and crumble when you ask) you can make it seem like this legislation is X bogeyman and everyone who hates X should be on Apple's side.
They do this shit all the time.
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[–] Jixijenga 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Actually you do own it. That contract? It's for a service that you don't own and agree to use according to conditions listed in the contract.
General Motors and John Deere has been trying for years to prove that a bill of sale means nothing, but they haven't had as much success as they'd like and that's why this legislation is even a thing. What this legislation does is prevent companies from abusing the DMCA and allowing them to continue to make absurd, bullshit claims that you're operating under license.
This is a future problem lawmakers are tackling now and Apple doesn't like it because it won't let them bully people tomorrow. All the companies against it are the same companies who have developed a reputation for being slimy.
[–] itsafuckshitstack 1 point 9 points 10 points (+10|-1) ago
people who want to control and fix their own shit don't buy apple
[–] rocket_robin_hood ago
yep, its just another reason not to touch apple stuff.
[–] greycloud 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago (edited ago)
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup/videos
a youtube channel devoted to teaching you how to repair electronics including apple shit
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[–] Ghetto_Shitlord 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
He got into some hot water with them already but they haven't taken action. I think it was to do with him and some "secret" manuals that got shown on video.
[–] greycloud 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
http://keepvid.com/
you can save the videos to help preserve free speech if you want.
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[–] Isaac_With_A_D6 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Yea it's crazy. I feel like they want to push fucking everything to a sevice economy where we don't actually own anything. Cars, computers etc all leased to the user and must be presented to the parent company for upkeep and repair. Not to mention playing right into their planned obsolete rollouts that push everone to their latest and greatest release.
[–] strix-varia 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Yup, things are made to last only a short while. They push an extended warranty on items, so that it will be replaced if it breaks down. I asked someone..."why would I buy an extended warranty for $20, if the item is worth $29? Doesn't make sense to me. I like this attitude....https://buynothingproject.org/about
[–] piratse ago
Cars is going to be almost impossible, there are too many mechanics in the US that employ too many people. And there have been hard laws done time and time again that dealers can't force you to repair your vehicle at their shops.
[–] rocket_robin_hood ago
What a nightmare that would be.
[–] Gringojones 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
When fast food companies adopt this logic, you wont be allowed to open a burger to remove a tomato. You will have to purchase another at full price or pay a fee to have a licensed technician remove it for you.
[–] carnold03 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
Not a problem. I'll simply continue to not buy apple goods or tech.
[–] strix-varia 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Best thing I've done for myself in years, get rid of apple cellphone and everything connected to the dam thing. Do not want, need or care about apple. A pain in the butt to quit however....on the phone with them for at least 3/4 of an hour, deleting everything and answering their stupid questions. And yes, it is all about control.
[–] geosprintforever 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Cr-Apple.....another race to the bottom of freedom and choice. Just say no to Cr- Apple.