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[–] Donbuster 0 points 65 points (+65|-0) ago 

To be clear, its legal now, but right to repair bills do something very important- they protect that right. Companies, especially apple and john deere, are attempting to make unauthorized repair nearly impossible through software (for instance by making repairs not detected as approved brick the device or machinary), and then claim that bypassing the DRM is copyright infringement, and therefore illegal. TPP would have helped massively with this, by finally giving them the last piece of that puzzle, enshrining in law that, yes, the bypassing of DRM software is itself a crime even when done for legal purposes. Coincidentally, it also would have made such actions a criminal rather than civil offense.


[–] 1moar 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Thanks for clarifying this, it's important to know. I like to think I stay pretty well informed, but it's tough in this day and age, to be up on everything.


[–] curomo 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I think DMCA already made that the law.


[–] BillMarshall 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

John deere and toro will already not release info and there is no law to compel them similar to the auto industry which at least has weak ones. to protect car owners.


[–] bikergang_accountant 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

I've never really liked laws like these. Unless it's an amendment bills don't protect anything. They just introduce a football to the field to be kicked back and forth. I'd rather the government not admit authority over the matter and take it to court as is.


[–] Mylon 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

This is a big issue for farming tractors. They are designed in such a way that if they malfunction, one has to break intellectual property laws to get into the software and fix them. Inkjet printer manufacturers tried to do the same, putting copyrighted software on cartridges so they can claim reprogramming them is breaking laws.

These companies are intentionally spending development time designing products with stuff they don't need for the sole purpose of capturing the repair/replacement market.


[–] vacvape 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

All of that shit should already be illegal under anti competitive/ racketeering laws. But money talks and bullshit walks.


[–] ShinyVoater 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

It's not illegal per se, but it's deliberately as close to impossible as they can get while still being able to offer their own overpriced repair services. It's pretty much an anti-trust measure.


[–] PrinceOfLies 6 points 3 points (+9|-6) ago 

Title is a bit misleading. Bills will force manufacturers to provide repair parts to consumers and 3rd party repair shops, as well as provide proprietary repair manuals. As a consumer would love to see this happen, but I'd rather not have it government-mandated.


[–] Donbuster 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

As a consumer would love to see this happen, but I'd rather not have it government-mandated.

Pick one. Companies know they can make FAR more profit by NOT doing these things, and charging the consumer a fortune for minor repairs. Which would you rather have? Parts, or less regulation?


[–] Mylon 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Companies can collude together to bilk consumers with these kinds of practices. Government is (ideally) consumers colluding together to tell those companies to knock it off. It's leveling the playing field.