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[–] hyunlee 1 point 26 points (+27|-1) ago 

I'm really big on privacy. With that said: if you're on public grounds, anyone should be able to record what's going on. If you're on private grounds, you're also agreeing with the terms of what the owner of the land has set.

Like with most things, if you don't like it, don't use it.

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[–] FreeSpeachRocks 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

Seems to me there are differences with scale. It's one thing to see someone and identify them because you know them, it's a different thing to have a database with everyone's information and be able to identify everyone -- particularly if this becomes a 'shared' database.

It is fairly reasonable to presume that these images will be linked with other data, e.g. identifiers, buying history, bank or credit data. Further under current US law, the Government has access to all of it at any time and it is illegal for you to be notified.

This gives me pause.

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[–] hyunlee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Keep in mind that your brain is sort of a database. Just not made out of metal/plastic bits and pieces.

And yes, it pains me as well. Hopefully humanity will turn around...

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans ago 

In Germany, it is generally OK to take pictures of random people. The problem is that you are generally not allowed to publish photos of these people without permission.

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[–] Shagoosty ago 

Just wear a scarf over your face.

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[–] xoitus ago 

Well said. It gives me a bit more than pause though, it gives me shudder. Data is within 50 years of being all knowing, I am not ready for it to be.

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[–] hyunlee 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I haven't heard of any movement towards a "no surveillance zone" happening whereas I'm seeing a huge movement with "cameras everywhere."

The thing is, I have surveillance at home for the sake of security. People naturally feel safer with these things.

Am I scared of third party companies watching me or collecting data on me? Of course. Everyone should be at this point.

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[–] DanielKurlan 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

we have to think about the possibility that there will be few places to go where your not 'under surveillance'

This is exactly why the "well its private property they can do what they want" mentality is dangerous.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes, it's one of those things where automation allows a difference of degree to rapidly become a difference of kind.

Obviously if I go out in public I have to be comfortable with the fact that somebody might recognise me. If I go to my local cafe they'll say "Hey, it's didntsayeeeeee" again, I bet he wants a cappuccino" and I'm okay with that.

But automate that procedure so that the supermarket's computers not only recognise my face, they've connected it to my name (via my credit card) and are also monitoring me as I walk around, seeing how long my eyes linger on each product on the shelves, so they can design ads specificially for me -- that's getting creepy.

On another hand, if you'd told me fifteen years ago that Google was not only going to read my email to optimise my search results (and ads, I suppose) but also to pop up little tags on google maps reminding me exactly what hotel I'd be staying in and when -- then I would have found that creepy. But now I just find it just plain useful.

Perhaps we all need to get used to the idea that we're being monitored by big impersonal data-mining algorithms and quit finding it creepy the same way we'd find it creepy if an actual person were paying attention to us. Ultimately I don't know, but this kind of thing is gonna happen and we need to either nip it in the bud or start accepting it.

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[–] ImReallyHighBut 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'll not accept blindly the decrees of a greedy master.

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[–] Absolem 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yep, if companies want to adopt this kind of shit, I'll just go adopt different companies.