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[–] HeavyBeefCurtain 1 points 43 points (+44|-1) ago 

uBlock, if you sell out to advertisers, I will commit suicide on uStream live.

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[–] Proppa 0 points 34 points (+34|-0) ago 

Don't encourage them, we need this shit

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[–] Water 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

You can always fork ublock, it has already happened once.

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[–] xeemee 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

yeah, and the guy that forked it seems to be a dick

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Wats ur username there? Heh jk.

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[–] mort 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Voat's ads are literally just pictures, a regular <img> tag, pointing to somewhere on voat.co, not even a dedicated ad subdomain. It would be impossible to automatically detect it as an ad. This isn't a matter of ublock origin knowingly letting the ad through; it's simply a case of the ad blocker not knowing it's an ad.

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Not only is it a better adblocker (blocks more ads), it is also much leaner on resources. I don't have the link anymore, but out of ~8 adblockers, Ublock Origin led to faster load times & lower resource usage in all but (I think) one metric. Anyone have that link?

Edit: Found the link - https://www.raymond.cc/blog/10-ad-blocking-extensions-tested-for-best-performance

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[–] 0x4F [S] 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Palemoon has the classic Firefox interface and no embedded ads.

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[–] DXPower 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've never noticed ads on my new tab page and I run the newest version of Firefox everyday. Am I just not seeing this, or something?

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[–] HomerSimpson 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They started going for a locked down system that is when I stopped using them.

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not particularly happy about the new tab ads but they are implemented in a decent way (the ads can't track you). You can also turn then off pretty easily.

But uBlock Origin is available for Chrome as well.

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[–] xeemee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Anyone have that link?

not the one you're referring to i don't think, but...

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock#performance

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, it's not the one I was thinking of but still pretty cool.

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Good points here

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[–] ohcanada 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Along with being sellouts, ABP absolutely rapes my netbook's CPU so I made the switch to uBlock and CloudReady runs amazing by comparison.

Is there much difference between uBlock and uBlock Origin? Is the latter even lighter on the CPU?

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 33 points (+33|-0) ago  (edited ago)

uBlock Origin is a result of a spat between the original dev & a co-dev. The original guy wanted to leave the project so he handed everything over to 2nd guy. 2nd guy did stuff that 1st guy didn't like (I don't recall what) so 1st guy forked & made uBlock Origin. Since then, uBlock Origin is the only one to actually make significant improvements to the addon.

In short, use uBlock Origin. uBlock is not trustworthy.

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[–] ohcanada 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Excellent, thank you. I'll be making the switch!

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Been using Origin for months. The dev is a really cool guy. I hope he never sells out and I hope people donate plenty to him. I gave him a paltry five dollars, but it's something.

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[–] MiMx 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks for the reco, just picked up the add-on

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[–] Water 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You can't steal free software really. It is built into the license that you can do whatever you want with it almost.

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[–] NotThisMind 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Read https://malwaretips.com/threads/ublock-v-s-ublock-origin.51902/ , it's very light on a celeron i'm running in FF .

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[–] ohcanada 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thanks for the link. If it can run on a Celeron, it'll zoom on my crappy Atom N455.

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[–] MRPockets 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

Doesn't matter. The source is open so anyone can fork it & carry on the work.

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[–] xeemee 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

the source for ABP is also open (GNU license) and look what happened there - there have been forks, but none that are worthwhile AFAIK

AMO will only list add-ons where the source is available

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[–] NotThisMind 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

They're open source, it doesn't matter, and... this isn't news what ABP is doing, for at least a year they've been doing that, switched to uBlock Origin long ago, won't go back.

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[–] kekkomatic 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

GOOD!

It will certainly look poignant to some, and I have very good reason to do so: I get to decide who deserves my trust. Noscript helps me a great deal too.

My connection is shared between 4 people, a lousy DSL with 7mbit down (feels like 5) and half a mbit up (feels like 300kbps). So, let's see: should I let a website make hundreds of connections to ad networks, CDNs with autoplay ads, and inflate the loading time to up to a minute, if all I want to do is read an article or post a comment?

My reason to block ads is not petty. I love advertising, it's an art form. But now it feels like an overgrown cancer taking over the internet.

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[–] 0x4F [S] 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The way Voat does ads now is the way it should be done. One 500x500 square in the margins, and a static image with no tracking code rather than all this Javascript bullshit and Flash animations. Blinking .gif ads were already known as the bane of the Internet in 1995. Why make it worse 20 years later by making the bulk of your website's code a fucking high-def video that covers the whole screen and can't be clicked off until you've viewed at least 10 seconds of it?

I don't mind the square on the side of the Voat website at all. I also appreciate that there's a subverse for ad feedback. The big-name sites just force a stupid Progressive animation down your throat and then bitch if you try to block it -- because the companies they contract with aren't getting their all-important page views. I'm waiting for some major publisher like the NYT or WaPo to get sued into oblivion because a kid had a seizure inflicted by one of their Porygon blipverts flashing so bad that it makes the Polybius game look like a blank screen.

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[–] kekkomatic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's right. For now the lists I'm subscribed to don't block voat, but when they do I'll whitelist it.

Also, blipverts. God, I love Max Headroom!

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[–] Subtenko 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Remember old school popups? Some sites would do multiple popups. Soon as that happened I searched "how to block ads" when I was a wee lad. Look at me now! :D

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[–] xeemee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Why make it worse 20 years later by making the bulk of your website's code a fucking high-def video that covers the whole screen ...

fucking great comment : )

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[–] Fred 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I hear "sold out to so-called safe advertisers", but there's two obvious questions there:

First, have those "so-called safe advertisers" used the safe advertising shield to actually do bad stuff?

Second, didn't ABP have a way to block all adverts regardless of the safety of the advertisers in there?

Answer one: I don't know. I haven't heard of any. ABP makes it clear that they're not about that.

Answer two: They make it clear you can disable the acceptable ads.

While I am all for uBlock Origin as it works better in my estimation, we don't need to shit on AdBlock Plus just for working with non-shitty advertisers to ensure that all the shitty elements of ads no longer exist. We can't expect sites to run on good will after all, or have we so quickly forgotten recent additions to the sidebar here on voat?

EDIT: Downvoaters: At least put fingers to keys and point out why it is you disagree with me.

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[–] 0x4F [S] 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

There aren't any mainstream non-shitty advertisers. The kind of ads you see on the side margin at Voat -- a single static image with literally just a URL pointing to the homepage -- are an anachronism. The majority of web advertising uses tracking mechanisms of all kinds to collect data. Plus, ABP never had that option until their backroom "agreement" with whatever companies it agreed to put on its internal whitelist. They sold out by having a company whitelist in the first place. Their name isn't Some Ads Blocked, it's just AdBlock. If anything, they disqualified the "plus" by subtracting certain ad providers from what pretty much used to be a universal blacklist.

Any concession to the other side, especially when it's such a ruthless industry as the advertising profession, is a Trojan horse, not in the computer malware sense (although it wasn't long before Forbes started infecting users with actual malware based on their inclusion as a "friendly" ad publisher) but the metaphorical sense of showing weakness to an untrustworthy opponent. ABP caved, so a worthy competitor showed up in its place to give users what they really wanted: the option on their end to block as many ads as they want without having a #notalladvertisers shame-finger waved at them by the app developer.

Hope this helps.

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[–] Fred 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Thanks for having the balls to state why you disagree.

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[–] StuffThatSandwich 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Shh you're breaking up the circlejerk!

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[–] monsterknot 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Thank you - I just uninstalled ABP and installed ublock origin.

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[–] Black_Phillip 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

And Mozilla sold out to SJWs

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