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[–] thrus 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The answer is simple, they would rather spend money on the software then on training. Software comes from IT's budget and they are a known cost center (most companies, few use a charge back system and bill the department for IT's services), training comes from the department's budget and they are expect to turn a profit equal or grater then last year a big department wide training would make that hard to do on paper. When the departments compete to look good instead of for the good of the company as a whole you get dumb decisions that look good on paper at one tier but bad at the whole bottom line.

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[–] Hey_Sunshine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Is there a more appropriate response?

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[–] thrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

lol good answer. I firmly belive that if people are at a computer for more then 4 hours of their workday it is expected of them to be able to use and understand basic computer concepts like what a program is, what an icon is, how to fucking copy cut paste, and basic web browsing, as well as general terminology like web browser, address bar, menu, folder. They don't need to be experts but not understanding the basic tools they use for most of the days is like saying they don't know how to use a pen, unacceptable.

but in fairness the office one does have active differences I know as I use MS at work and open office at home. and the ribbon did suck to get used to as it rearranged all the command people used to know where to find.

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[–] thrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There was no winning argument for that situation either they were pissed with the ribbon or with the new software, either way your choice would be blamed when they were late for getting reports to their boss. but with the ribbon at least you had the fact that you recommend MS as a fallback when people got upset, instead of a company that few if any of management knew made an office suite.

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[–] noblefool 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago  (edited ago)

OpenOffice and LibreOffice didn't exist at that point. Those came out about 5 years laterish (IIRC Ribbon was introduced in MS Office 2007, and LibreOffice's first stable build was in 2011-2012ish. OpenOffice came after this, because LibreOffice was the result of Oracle bleeding the original dev team for OpenOffice.org after they acquired it, so they had to rebuild).

EDIT: Okay, it seems I need to clarify. I'm well aware that OpenOffice.org existed at the time but it's not the same thing as OpenOffice, because they named the new Fork of OpenOffice.org OpenOffice - The fork is distinct from the base.)

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[–] 0x5f3759df 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Also, especially in governmental agencies, there is an enormous inertia, in everything. It takes far less effort to keep everything the way it is, even if that wastes a lot of money.

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[–] laikaislost 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

they would rather spend money on the software then on training

I would say that from my experience, the bigger reason is support rather than just training (though I agree that training is a big component also because time lost learning tools is time not earning money, because for a large company, 2 hours per employee is equal to the cost of the Microsoft license). LibreOffice support would come from in-house, however MS Office is a mature product with more business implementation, and microsoft has better support than LibreOffice.

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[–] thrus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I have never been at a company with outside support for MS Office, it just falls to the IT department to handle it. And you are correct about the cost of the license vs training but it is only true for 1 year, year two is bit different as there is no training but they won't sacrifice this year for next year on the accounting sheets have to think short term profits.