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[–]AlphaWookie1 point
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USA was able to meet the food demands of the entire fucking world.
The world population has increased four times since then.
Today, small farms are paid to not grow or produce anything, or produce specific things, so that Big-Agro doesn't have to deal with competition.
That is a gross misunderstanding of the farm programs. They keep food prices stable. You are very lucky you do not have to feed a family before food production controls where put in place and the faming market was completely exposed to Chicago and New York speculators. You at least owe it to your self to learn about the other side of the issue first before you comment.
This is why we can't and don't have nice things.
We have literally through government intervention and modern science you know the thing this sub is about has made it possible to have a chicken in every pot in America. A whole chicken is cheaper than a bag of Doritos and a 12 pack of Cola.
Through careful government intervention we no longer have diseases associated with famine and starvation like your great grand parents had to deal with. Western civilization has not had a famine in close to 50 years thanks to science. Also Western civilization feeds its population and has enough left over to feed many third world nations. So grow the fuck up.
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Doritos and Cola aren't food, they're either poison or drugs depending on how you want to view it. The chickens of today are largely health hazards, so full of antibiotics, endocrine disruptors, and heavy metals that the comparison to a chicken from 50 years ago becomes absurd. They also taste like shit, and are probably covered in it to; you know, because of the utter absence of adhered-to health standards. This is before mentioning the changes in nutritional value, or the inhumane treatment of the stock.
You are such a fucking shill. Your talk of "price stability" is a slap in the face to the millions of families that can't afford a healthy balanced diet. No, i don't thank Big-Brother for the food on my table, because i recognize that it could be there more cheaply and at higher quality were it not for the intervention of government in the free markets.
Not to entirely diss your point, because there is, of course, a very valid argument behind it.
However, @selpai mentioned something that is no secret for many of the people involved in the food industries. There are massive distortions forced from external entities that work against the consumer. And while price stability/food safety could have been the original reasons, it would be disingenuous to assume that the current situation is the result of following well thought regulations meant to protect the public.
I'll have to apologize because I don't have any source at the moment, but in general, the waste and abuse of certain food industries is baffling. I'm not going to say much about my involvement, but let just say that it took an external entity to force one of the biggest produce corporations of the world to change it's methods (In an example of the opposite of what we are arguing). The end result was a far more efficient/clean operation (waste was still ridiculous... but better), and the price for the consumer hardly changed.
As someone told me, the price we pay for our food hardly has to do with the production of the food itself, but the middlemen and poorly conceived regulations.
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[–] AlphaWookie 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
The world population has increased four times since then.
That is a gross misunderstanding of the farm programs. They keep food prices stable. You are very lucky you do not have to feed a family before food production controls where put in place and the faming market was completely exposed to Chicago and New York speculators. You at least owe it to your self to learn about the other side of the issue first before you comment.
We have literally through government intervention and modern science you know the thing this sub is about has made it possible to have a chicken in every pot in America. A whole chicken is cheaper than a bag of Doritos and a 12 pack of Cola.
Through careful government intervention we no longer have diseases associated with famine and starvation like your great grand parents had to deal with. Western civilization has not had a famine in close to 50 years thanks to science. Also Western civilization feeds its population and has enough left over to feed many third world nations. So grow the fuck up.
[–] selpai 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Doritos and Cola aren't food, they're either poison or drugs depending on how you want to view it. The chickens of today are largely health hazards, so full of antibiotics, endocrine disruptors, and heavy metals that the comparison to a chicken from 50 years ago becomes absurd. They also taste like shit, and are probably covered in it to; you know, because of the utter absence of adhered-to health standards. This is before mentioning the changes in nutritional value, or the inhumane treatment of the stock.
You are such a fucking shill. Your talk of "price stability" is a slap in the face to the millions of families that can't afford a healthy balanced diet. No, i don't thank Big-Brother for the food on my table, because i recognize that it could be there more cheaply and at higher quality were it not for the intervention of government in the free markets.
[–] PotatoFarm 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Not to entirely diss your point, because there is, of course, a very valid argument behind it.
However, @selpai mentioned something that is no secret for many of the people involved in the food industries. There are massive distortions forced from external entities that work against the consumer. And while price stability/food safety could have been the original reasons, it would be disingenuous to assume that the current situation is the result of following well thought regulations meant to protect the public.
I'll have to apologize because I don't have any source at the moment, but in general, the waste and abuse of certain food industries is baffling. I'm not going to say much about my involvement, but let just say that it took an external entity to force one of the biggest produce corporations of the world to change it's methods (In an example of the opposite of what we are arguing). The end result was a far more efficient/clean operation (waste was still ridiculous... but better), and the price for the consumer hardly changed.
As someone told me, the price we pay for our food hardly has to do with the production of the food itself, but the middlemen and poorly conceived regulations.