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[–] 1Sorry_SOB [S] 1 points 44 points (+45|-1) ago 

You put it very nicely, my friend.

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[–] Diogenes_The_Cynic 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Fun fact, in the USSR questioning the government was a subset of schizophrenia. It wasn't illegal, so they wouldn't put people on trial for it, but they would repeatedly put them in indefinate stays in a mental ward till the person rehabilitated.

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[–] Teh_Sauce_Guy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

NAZI and Soviets also breathed air. What's your point?

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[–] razzz 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

This is how the left operates. Anything with which they oppose gets labeled as mental illness.

Opposed to gay marriage? Homophobia.

Opposed to terrorism? Islamophobia.

Opposed to overraching government? Oppositional defiant disorder.

Wanna cut off your dick and dress up like a hooker? You're a motherfucking hero.

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[–] propaganja 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Dude... no. There is no such thing as left and right. There is only the very very disgustingly rich, and everyone else.

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[–] propaganja 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Conformity is drilled into students throughout their public education. Though they may be uninterested in politics, politics is interested in them.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB [S] 1 points 52 points (+53|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There was an outbreak of this in 1776.

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[–] tonberry2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yeah, thank god that's over.

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

those fucking rich tax dodgers?

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[–] goatboy 4 points 29 points (+33|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Bullshit!

Seriously though. ODD is a diagnosis for children who miss critical parent-child bonding milestones while the child is very young and the common mechanics and structures of trust, empathy, and mirroring do not develop in the child's brain. It is not applied to adults. Adults who disagree, but are otherwise productive members of a community are called normal, contrarians, or even curmudgeons.

On the other hand, children with ODD often grow up to become psychopaths or sociopaths.

ODD is one of the most misdiagnosed labels applied lately. But idiot shrinks love popular diagnosis. It seems like every year there is a new favorite diagnosis that gets broadly applied and few people applying it have any scientific basis for doing it, they just think it feels right at the time.

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[–] FinalRemix 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Thank you. Exactly. This isn't some socio-politico diagnosis, it's a legit thing that's misunderstood (oft times even by professionals overreaching their training).

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[–] SuiXi3D 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

When I was younger, doctors said I had both this and ADD. I was... well, I had a temper on me. I was a geeky kid in a small town, so I got made fun of a lot by the popular kids... whose parents happened to either donate a ton of money to the school or were part of the staff in some way. This meant that if I ever decided to stand up for myself when I was being beat up, I would get in trouble. If I ever once tried to call any of these kids out on their shit, I'd get suspended or sent to alternative school. The place where they send juvenile delinquents. You know the kids that are selling drugs when they're twelve and shit. Of course I didn't trust authority figures. By the time I was a teenager, my parents finally had to pull me out of school and home school me. None of the staff at the school could be trusted to actually give me a fair chance at anything.

To this day I still have a hard time trusting authority figures. That doesn't mean I go out of my way to do the opposite of what they say, but I believe that anyone in a place of power should be held accountable by those under them.

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[–] goatboy 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago  (edited ago)

The biggest problem is ODD should only ever be diagnosed with a full fMRI brain scan run by an actual Neuropsychologists. Instead, wannabe psychologists and idiot psychiatrists read about it and wanted it included in the DSM with nothing but behavior observations as the metric. This allowed for wide spread amphetamine and other legal narcotics to be prescribed to kids and teens. The problem with behavior observations based diagnostic testing is there is a huge margin for error, zero error reporting, and zero accountability. Also, behavior based observations are inherently subjective on the part of the tester. It is the biggest quackery since voodoo witch doctors.

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[–] TheUniverseHatesYou 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I signed up just to respond to this post then saw your comment. I've worked with ODD kids, They aren't revolutionaries. They have no agenda. They're just obstinate and it impacts their socialization. Defining such things can prove difficult since there may be overlap with otherwise normal outlier behaviors. But if you've ever seen a kid with ODD, I guarantee you'd never mistake him for Thomas Jefferson.

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[–] Bindlestiff 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

Psychiatry has always been politicized bullshit geared towards social control.

regardless, if you believe this then you implicitly concede that the study of psychology/psychiatry has objective measurable data with predictive value.

AD(H)D and this oppositional-defiance crap are an example of the latter.

no it isn't. it's an example of how even supposed 'experts' and trained professionals don't know what the hell they're looking at.

If you had a friend or coworker that couldn't remember anything, they were impuslive and angry, started binge drinking and racking up debt, and doing weird shit like turning keys till they broke off in the lock, what would doctors call it? It depends entirely on how they got it. If they blew a railroad spike out the top of their skull, they would call it brain damage but if they're born that way it's called ADHD, and people blow smoke up their ass by calling them creative free-thinkers. Still don't believe me? then go look up "ADHD secondary to TBI" the TBI stands for traumatic brain injury. 20 to 50 percent of people with TBI's get ADHD as a result.

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[–] lexsird 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I think we simply need to follow the money. This is just a prelude to a medicine for such conditions. Get your puppet research out there to talk about a problem and then have the solution. I wonder who will be bringing something to market or up for approval?

Parents, put your kids on this as they go through High School and go into College so that they don't end up in BLM. Take this so you don't go postal on your friends family and coworkers. Get arrested and be court ordered to take it. Etc. Big money, big money.

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[–] DeltaBravoTango 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The thing I always say is that the reason the DSM is so full is because insurance companies only pay for treatment of the disorder is in the book. Therapists write the book so they put as much in there as they can. Source: my dad is a therapist.

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[–] Viropher 2 points 27 points (+29|-2) ago 

Seems to be a healthy disorder to have.

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[–] Diggit 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

As an adult with ODD, I've never done any of those things. I'm very sensitive to people's feelings and care deeply about them. I love animals. Hell, I cried when I ran over a squirrel. I like fire, sure, but not in a "let's burn this bitch down" sort of way.

I also have Tourette's Syndrome and am aware of the co-morbidity associated with it and ODD. Additionally, it does get me in shit for employers, which is why I am sometimes self-employed. I find you to be either "full of shit" and/or someone that confuses being a sociopath with ODD.

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[–] unixfreak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Pfff. Those who blindly follow the establishment tend to be the ones with a lack of empathy. They also look up to people who stick their penises in dead pigs mouths.

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[–] cyks 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

What a load of horse shit.

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[–] purr 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I largely agree with you. While the basic idea psychiatry seems valid, the people controlling the field have gotten it all wrong. Psychiatry has an enormous capability to pathologize behavior, control people, and dehumanize. I think it has a lot to do with people thinking "You have a mental disorder, so you are not credible." But I think the author of this blog has blown it out of proportion. Nonetheless, psychiatry is still a very dangerous thing, and you can basically invent any mental disorder you want. Back in the days of slavery, someone proposed that not wanting to be a slave was a mental illness. I don't think psychiatry has come very far since then.

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[–] Tranix 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What does the DSM have to say about people who obey authority without questioning it?

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[–] 3437355? 3 points 15 points (+18|-3) ago 

This is why I'm opposed to restricting gun ownership because of "mental illness". One day, they can decide that the desire to own a firearm is a mental illness.

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[–] eulogyjones 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Came here to say exactly this. The whole "mental illness" restrictions that have been proposed give the government way too much power to arbitrarily decide what counts as a mental disorder since psychology is such a grey area science.

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[–] Timber_Beast 2 points 14 points (+16|-2) ago 

I worked with children with ODD diagnoses. Their hobbies included fist-fights, punching out windows, shoving matches, rioting, and generally acting like hell-spawn. This article does a disservice to the severity of the behavior.

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[–] IggyReilly 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I used to teach piano to a girl supposedly diagnosed with ODD. She was a pretty defiant child, but as long as I was stern with her and rewarded her hard work, she was a normal kid. I'm pretty sure her parents just had her diagnosed and doped up bc she was the scapegoat (had golden child older sister).

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[–] Timber_Beast 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

To be fair to children with ODD, the ones I worked with were in in-patient treatment, and were housed together (brilliant idea, I know).

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[–] Gorillion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"had golden child older sister"

That's interesting. Had a school buddy who would no doubt be called ODD these days, and he had a slightly older brother who was not only a musical genius of some kind, but also had one of those big dramatic childhood illnesses (some kind of encephalitis IIRC) that sucks up all available parental attention etc. My pal was the classic "doing everything for (negative) attention" kid. Unfortunately his irresponsible/risk taking behavior ended with him wrapping his car around a tree about ten years ago (though thankfully no-body else was involved - just lost it on a corner after being reported as driving "erratically").

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[–] jeegte12 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

that's revolting. growing up as one of four, i couldn't imagine if one of us was a golden child. it'd be hell for the others.

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