1
51

[–] barrinmw 1 points 51 points (+52|-1) ago 

Constant exposure to poison is bad even in low doses? Color me shocked, Shocked I say! Next you will tell me that if I put in .1 mg of Polonium into my tea everyday, it will kill me.

5
10

[–] septopus 5 points 10 points (+15|-5) ago 

ITT anti-gmo nutjobs.

4
6

[–] Wolfbeckett 4 points 6 points (+10|-4) ago 

Every. Freaking. Time.

If you question them enough, almost 100% of the people that hate GMO fall into one of two camps. Either "I hate capitalism and people making money off of this is BULLSHIT!" or "I'm an uneducated doofus who believes that everything natural is awesome and everything artificial is literally cancer". The first type just need to be cornered into admitting that their problem is ideological rather than scientific and then the argument can take it's proper course. The second type are normally beyond help, unfortunately, presenting them with facts contrary to their wrongheaded worldview usually just makes them double down on the nonsense.

3
4

[–] PrivateJoker 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago  (edited ago)

or just people that want sustainable farming and not this bullshit....but feel free to continue to wrap everyone in one neat anti-gmo package.

I'm sure you know that these roundup ready crops are being coated in MORE roundup than previous non-gmo crops right? And now they've spawned resistant weeds to the point where they have to use 2,4d alongside glyphosate right?

Nah, we're all just anti-science for actually reading up on issues and not drinking the big ag koolaid

0
0

[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Kill yourself, you fucking pseudoscience peddling waste of life shill.

0
10

[–] PiercingAjarDolphin 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

I was curious and I looked up how much polonium that you need to ingest to die. It turns out the lethal dose is actually 0.0089 grams. The article also mentions that it's just a smidge more than a grain of table salt :S

0
3

[–] Clayton 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So where can I order this "polonium" stuff?

0
2

[–] Skwerley 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think the point is that they use the same chemicals on like, every god damn farm ever. They engineered the poison to be effective on certain plants, and engineered the profitable crops to be resistant to it. Regardless of if the actual GMO shit is dangerous, it's kind of fucked up that they put this poison on all of our food and don't bother to let us know that it's possible to get organ damage from your side salads.

0
0

[–] crankypants15 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But but... they said asbestos was safe! And lead paint! And leaded gas! And cigarettes! And lithium batteries! And thalidomide! And...

6
34

[–] Wolfbeckett 6 points 34 points (+40|-6) ago  (edited ago)

Beefcake, BEEFCAAAAAAKE!

*maycauseirreversibledamagetothekidneysandliver

Obligatory reminder that even if Roundup turns out to be unsafe to use (which one study on rats certainly does not prove), that does not make GMO food as a technology unsafe, it makes Roundup unsafe. Feel free to protest "Roundup ready" crops if you think it's unsafe, but don't couch it in terms that sound like you're protesting all GMO's unless you want to be called on your luddite bullshit.

[–] [deleted] 10 points 11 points (+21|-10) ago 

[Deleted]

6
14

[–] Iforgotmy_other_acct 6 points 14 points (+20|-6) ago 

Destructive business practices... like producing enough food, because pre-industrial levels of crop yield would be horrendously insufficient to support our current population?

[–] [deleted] 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago  (edited ago)

[Deleted]

0
1

[–] casper 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

because it's mainly used to support destructive agribusiness practices

For the millionth time. All types of seeds (GM, conventonal, and organic) are patented and subject to buyer contracts, all types of seeds are grown in monocultures, and all types of seeds are big money corporate conglomerate business. Those "all organic" brands you buy were grown on a giant industrial ag-business farm too. Patents only last 20 years, and many GM, conventioanl and organic varieties have come off patent and are no longer legal monopolies, but many still are. Monsanto sells seeds to conventional and organic farmers too. The only way to affect corporate bottom lines is to grow your own food. Avoiding GM food does nothing to them, they make just as much money from your organic purchases as they do from you buying GM.

[–] [deleted] 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

[Deleted]

0
4

[–] Grospoliner 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The amount of round-up that could be washed off vegetables being prepared as food and into the city water system, would be in such low concentrations that anyone who actually got sick from ingesting it, would prove that homeopathy worked (it doesn't and this is a sarcastic comment).

0
1

[–] organicgangbang 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The problem is I cannot fully trust the technology of a corporation that also purposefully produces/sells poison and claims it's harmless. So even if Monsanto did have a GMO product worth using, I can't trust a corporation with such an impressive tract record of profiting from fraud. Scientists that produce bullshit studies are blacklisted in terms of reputation and companies that act similarly need to be treated similarly.

0
0

[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Fuck off you anti-science fucking Monsantard shill.

3
26

[–] nonethewiser 3 points 26 points (+29|-3) ago 

This report is bad science. Any report with Gilles-Éric_Séralini's name on it is not science.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles-%C3%89ric_S%C3%A9ralini

1
6

[–] Irony_Dan 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Jesus Shit, are people still waving around this shitty and debunked garbage study as something important?

0
0

[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Kill yourself, shill.

1
1

[–] DarkLinkXXXX 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Okay, that guy does seem pretty sketchy, but shouldn't we be judging the content of the study? In any case, I'm sure some people are gonna have some fun trying to replicate this study, so we'll see how it plays out.

1
12

[–] nonethewiser 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

We already judged the study three days ago. But this wingnut shit keeps getting reposted.

[–] [deleted] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

[Deleted]

0
0

[–] Bainshie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yea, from a laymans perspective, this does seem higher quality than his usual stuff (Can't find any obvious holes in it.). Having said that, not my area of expertise, and the fact that it's published in some random assed journal is weird.

Guess I'll wait for an analysis of the study.

0
0

[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Fuck you, you are a fucking shill piece of shit and peddle pseudoscience.

0
0

[–] organicgangbang 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

But following this logic we can't trust a single product or claim from Monsanto either. They have participated in equal or greater amounts of fraud/deception/bad science.

[–] [deleted] 10 points 6 points (+16|-10) ago 

[Deleted]

2
2

[–] Ethical_testicle 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

The farms existed long before highways were constructed through them, and I don't see how a potential spray drift onto a road surface would affect humans anyway. Most people don't eat directly off the pavement.

Also, "carpet spraying" as you call it is really the only effective method of eliminating weeds within a crop of the size needed to feed out current population. Sending workers out into a field to selectively spray weeds over hundreds of hectares is in no way financially viable, and the destruction they would cause to the crop by trampling it would be massive.

I certainly agree that we need to closely monitor the safety of our food crops and the environmental impact of our agriculture, but weed spraying is an essential part of our current agricultural system which we cannot eliminate overnight.

[–] [deleted] 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

[Deleted]

0
0

[–] casper 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Round-Up is also the most popular herbicide for conventional crops. Round-Up cannot be avoided by avoiding GMOs.

[–] [deleted] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

[Deleted]

1
5

[–] Kwanzaabot 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

Well, guess I'm fucked. I used to carry a five-gallon tank of this on my back and spot spray fields when I was a kid.

I know Monsanto gets a lot of hate and deservedly so, but Roundup ready corn was a godsend to farmers. Before that was available almost all fields had to be tilled before you could plant corn as the herbicide needed to be tilled into the ground. This leads to a lot more runoff and it also doesn't last that long, just gives the corn a good head start.

There was some stuff you could spray on after the corn was up, I think it was called accent, but could only be used at a certain time. After that was safe to use there was nothing and fields would get overrun with weeds and Johnson grass. Johnson grass is horrible and will quickly spread and take over a field, shade everything out, extremely hard to get rid of and can cause digestive problems in cows and even kill them if you harvest it after its brown.

After roundup ready corn you could no-till pretty much everything resulting in way, way less field work and fuel use, less runoff and erosion, and way higher quality feed that was all corn and no weeds, resulting in better milk production.

Not trying to defend Monsanto and their shady, secretive practices. Just a little insight into the difference it made to farmers lives.

0
2

[–] noblefool 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I got someone with a Doctorate in Pharmacy to break down the study for me - He said that they're basically pointing to epigenetic changes and going "Look!" without any conclusive evidence what said changes are doing. His conclusion on the study is "Needs more studies", so I think you're still good for now . . .

1
1

[–] Bfwilley 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Oh just to add insult to perjury remember DDT, Baned and after all the PC hoopla died out we find out that it was baned as a political expediency not because it was doing what they said, the SJWs caused world wide deaths with that one.

0
1

[–] Perigran 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

New study suggests long and repeated exposure to articles about studies that show some substances may cause things leads to extreme confusion.

0
1

[–] Scarr 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm just impressed kidneys were able to put together a comprehensive long term study.

load more comments ▼ (4 remaining)