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Apple gave the company an impossible to satisfy order. The manufacturer cannot risk suppliying a demand not based on economic necessity - because Apple could and did take away the business capriciously. There was no other customer with similar needs.
"China is not just cheap. It’s a place where, because it’s an authoritarian government, you can marshal 100,000 people to work all night for you,”
What could go wrong with colleges educating mostly foreign enemies, providing them access to all your defenses, and having them build all your technology? Sure foreign governments will pay for this and then threaten with hypersonic missles and super-EMPs.
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thats seriously all you got out of that? cause i have to say, given voat's mostly watery Muh Jooz posts, this was actually some interesting anecdotal info
This has concerned me for a long time and it's nice to hear someone else talk about it. I've only experienced this from an electronics point of view but I hear the same from folks I know in other industries. There is a reason why NOS American made vacuum tubes are in such high demand and it's not because this or that sounds better; it's because they were made better. I think most folks are aware of it but can't see the enormity and long lasting impacts of completely outsourcing your parts supply and labor force. Preaching to the choir I suppose, what with the "journalists" and needing to learn to code (please God don't).
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I still vividly remember the commercial where a couple was packing their stuff to move and their kid asked why. They said it was because no one buys anything Made In America anymore so his job was sent overseas so he was laid off and they couldn't afford the house anymore. I didn't realize at the time how sad that actually is.
Apple is one of the most anti consumer companies around. The phones were NEVER going to be made in america because you have to pay americans for their labor.
Why the hell are they so expensive if they are using .05¢ a day labor? Seriously were are making this price up from to justify. They are not 'advaced' tech. Android can do everything an apple can do...
Supply and demand. They cut the supply on initial release, releasing small quantitys on purpose. So apple occultists hipster leftist faggots wait weeks to pay $2.5k for a $200 phone. Then that price just sticks and gradually decreases once the demand drops.
Unlike say samsung who release way too many phones and saturate the market, keeping most of their phones cheap and in low demand.
This is not news to me. It isn't as hard as you think it is mate. It's simply just changing it to a screw we can manufactured here in the U.S. They shouldn't be allowed to use a propriety screw period. That shit needs to be outlawed. The Warranty Stickers aren't legit any longer. Time for the screws to be universal. This is more about finding a reason to not make them in the U.S.
If you think this is anything else than them playing politics then I have a bridge to sell ya.
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This. I think their whole explanation reeks of bullshit. You can make any shaped screw you want and of any size. Don't give me this shit about American companies can't do it. It's just a fucking screw.
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custom screws
There's you problem! AFAIK desktops have 3 standard screws. Colossal, self-tapping screws for case fans. Coarse ones for power supplies and motherboards. Fine ones for drives.
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[–] Timmy2 0 points 35 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago
Such bullshit. Apple could have had this one tiny part flown in from China until the US plant got their equipment updated.
[–] VandalayIndustries 0 points 19 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago
Exactly what I was gonna post.
They’ll just rub their hands, and kvetch about this bullshit, and dumbfucks will believe them. Critical thinking is in short supply in America.
[–] Meme_Factory_1776 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
What??
(So is the attention span)
[–] cantaloupe6 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Apple gave the company an impossible to satisfy order. The manufacturer cannot risk suppliying a demand not based on economic necessity - because Apple could and did take away the business capriciously. There was no other customer with similar needs.
"China is not just cheap. It’s a place where, because it’s an authoritarian government, you can marshal 100,000 people to work all night for you,”
What could go wrong with colleges educating mostly foreign enemies, providing them access to all your defenses, and having them build all your technology? Sure foreign governments will pay for this and then threaten with hypersonic missles and super-EMPs.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-30/china-russia-preparing-blackout-warfare-super-emp-bombs
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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago
Paragraph breaks, brah
[–] MrPim 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
He lost that technology back in the 80s.
[–] Rizzo9000 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
thats seriously all you got out of that? cause i have to say, given voat's mostly watery Muh Jooz posts, this was actually some interesting anecdotal info
[–] HndrxMn 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
This has concerned me for a long time and it's nice to hear someone else talk about it. I've only experienced this from an electronics point of view but I hear the same from folks I know in other industries. There is a reason why NOS American made vacuum tubes are in such high demand and it's not because this or that sounds better; it's because they were made better. I think most folks are aware of it but can't see the enormity and long lasting impacts of completely outsourcing your parts supply and labor force. Preaching to the choir I suppose, what with the "journalists" and needing to learn to code (please God don't).
[–] Honey_Pot 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Hating on the Sinotronics...I found a pile of Telefunken's to feed the Hickock last Summer--good Times.
JJ's are good daily drivers.
[–] Derpfroot 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago (edited ago)
I still vividly remember the commercial where a couple was packing their stuff to move and their kid asked why. They said it was because no one buys anything Made In America anymore so his job was sent overseas so he was laid off and they couldn't afford the house anymore. I didn't realize at the time how sad that actually is.
[–] Iamthelightning 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Thanks for the insight. That worries me.
[–] Humansized 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Apple is one of the most anti consumer companies around. The phones were NEVER going to be made in america because you have to pay americans for their labor.
[–] Meme_Factory_1776 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Why the hell are they so expensive if they are using .05¢ a day labor? Seriously were are making this price up from to justify. They are not 'advaced' tech. Android can do everything an apple can do...
[–] slickleg64 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Supply and demand. They cut the supply on initial release, releasing small quantitys on purpose. So apple occultists hipster leftist faggots wait weeks to pay $2.5k for a $200 phone. Then that price just sticks and gradually decreases once the demand drops.
Unlike say samsung who release way too many phones and saturate the market, keeping most of their phones cheap and in low demand.
[–] Cat-hax 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Use regular screws then, no excuses, the only reason they use these screws is so people can't fix their own shit.
[–] 4saken 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Redesign. Jesus.
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[–] 4saken 1 point 5 points 6 points (+6|-1) ago
This is not news to me. It isn't as hard as you think it is mate. It's simply just changing it to a screw we can manufactured here in the U.S. They shouldn't be allowed to use a propriety screw period. That shit needs to be outlawed. The Warranty Stickers aren't legit any longer. Time for the screws to be universal. This is more about finding a reason to not make them in the U.S.
If you think this is anything else than them playing politics then I have a bridge to sell ya.
[–] thelma 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I make screws and nuts and bolts in my basement.
They are not hard to make.
They should have asked: how many can you make in a week?
Then when unhappy with the answer, call another company to also make additional screws.
Making screws is not complicated.
[–] 16485637? 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
This. I think their whole explanation reeks of bullshit. You can make any shaped screw you want and of any size. Don't give me this shit about American companies can't do it. It's just a fucking screw.
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Anyone can take out any screw. There are easy ways around specialty heads.
But explains why they want special screws.
Because they are fucking morons.
[–] J_Darnley 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
There's you problem! AFAIK desktops have 3 standard screws. Colossal, self-tapping screws for case fans. Coarse ones for power supplies and motherboards. Fine ones for drives.