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[–] NotTheMeanest 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Nope, the definitely didn’t go to the moon - which explains their stressed and anxious countenances in first press conference free they were back. And also why those old timey astronots won’t swear on a bible that they went to the moon. Because they didn’t.

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[–] phoenix883 ago  (edited ago)

I did not rule out that possibility. However, this claim requires proof and I'm very sceptical about subjective perception of stress and relaxation in voices of people growing up in a far different world and recorded fifty years ago.

It may be enough reason to suspect fraud, but without proof it remains speculative.

Also, it is quite irrelevant for present day politics. Even if it were fraud, it would mean nothing for our time if that fraud was revealed. None of our lives would experience any kind of improvement, nobody would get richer or happier, and none of our living conditions would become any safer from white extinction. Maybe white extinction would be accelerated, because anti white shilling would gain a new foothold.

Sure, truth above all, but there's truth that doesn't matter much.

You know what truths matter a lot. 9-11 and the death camps. The truth about these events have tremendous consequences for our daily situation and finding discrepancies there would unseat almost the entire political landscape. JFK would be similar, if not as far reaching.

That's why I suspect everyone who introduces new and irrelevant truther debates to be a paid shill. Flat Earth, moon landing, vaccines - irrelevant or much less relevant than most other topics.

Imagine for a minute the moon landing was revealed as a hoax tomorrow. What would happen? The government would tell us "yeah we lied but it was a lie we used to defeat the Ruskies, because they overextended their resources far and wide to win the space race. It was a lie to make the Soviet Union bankrupt themselves, and they did. We won, cool story, bro." - that's the best possible scenario and that is worth nothing to us. When the best possible outcome is worth that little, it makes no sense to pursue it.

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[–] NotTheMeanest 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I respect your position.

In my experience of researching flat earth, including testing for curvature (finding none), I was very much aware of my own cognitive dissonance and just how thorough the ball earth programming is... the outcome of breaking that conditioning brought me a true belief in a Creator God and tbh a joyous contentment and virtually stress free existence.

Please don’t get vaccinated, and I think you may want to reconsider your position on the importance of the discussion about vaccines. If they are able to mandate child vaccines, then adult vaccines will follow and humanity will get genetically weaker with each generation. It’s a huge truth that people need to wake up to, and sooner rather than later.