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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Nah, first-wave feminists, though rare nowadays among those using the label, are none of those things by virtue of their feminism. First-wave feminism is directly predicated on admiring the accomplishments of great men. Second-wave and beyond by definition are indeed vindictive, pretty, etc.

I would also note that the article favorably quotes Christina Hoff Sommers in talking about the harm on these young boys and what needs to change in their favor...and she is also first-wave feminist.

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[–] IndianaJones75 5 points 5 points (+10|-5) ago 

Actually, feminism was based on a lie from the start. Women have never had any problems in history.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

feminism was based on a lie from the start.

true

Women have never had any problems in history.

absurdly false

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[–] CobraStallone 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

I agree. Go back 300 or 400 years and would you want to be a rich woman or a working class man? The rich woman had more rights.

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[–] Mikel777 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago  (edited ago)

This true. Women are the more powerful gender since they are programming children literally in utero all the way up through the Oedipal stages through childhood. Psychologists like Erich Neumann and Jung state the most important determination of a child moral development occurs soon after they are conceived when they are still in utero, their mother's attitudes and psychology towards her infant deeply affects that child's psychological and emotional development. If this is true, women are indeed the programmers of humanity and are ultimately responsible for the world we are living in and all that happens in it, to their own gain or pain. So blaming men for all the fucking problems is misdirection away from themselves.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

First-wave feminism wasn't based on women having problems in history. It was based on admiring the accomplishments of men. This idea of problems etc only came decades later with the second wavers.

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[–] samuraichococat 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

not all Nazi's were bloodthirsty sociopaths who went around killing for the LOL's but these days only bloodthirsty sociopaths actually self identify as Nazi's. First Wave Feminism and feminists might have been a good healthy movement at one point, but now i think were on like what, 5th wave? there have been some minor changes (complete overhaul) in the doctrine since the good 'ol days in the 60's. at some-point you start to disassociate yourself with a toxic label unless you actually support what the label has become.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

at some-point you start to disassociate yourself with a toxic label unless you actually support what the label has become.

I just gave you a contemporary example of a woman who spends most of her time ripping on other feminists yet in no uncertain terms still self-applies the label to herself. So what you say isn't at all true.

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[–] Maroonsaint 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

There's no such thing as Nazis they died out in the forties

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[–] Pasin5 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Mummy said Christina Hoff Sommers is the devil.