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[–] liberalpyromania 3 points 65 points (+68|-3) ago 

Well thats another research grant wasted

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[–] klusterVug 0 points 44 points (+44|-0) ago 

Sometimes science affirms what we already believe, but sometimes it contradicts what we might intuitively believe. At least I can defend this point with hard research, except that no one disagrees with it.

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[–] DiggToRedditToVoat 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Yeah, I don't think many people get that no one should just believe in something on the basis of faith or that its common sense. Because science often can disprove all that jazz. For a long time it was common sense that... "what goes up must come down." Then rocket ships bam.... And is it birds of a feather flock together or is that opposites attract...? I mean you can make a long list of this kind of stuff.

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[–] carasci 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

It's also useful to be able to quantify something that we already believe - sure, the results here are no surprise, but if we're trying to compensate for the effect (whether in real life or other research) we need some numbers too.

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[–] Markgbe 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

yeah, really. In other news, Women will marry men they don't like, simply to attain wealth.

Get this to CNN.

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[–] carasci 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

So will men, they just don't normally have the option to.

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[–] liberalpyromania 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

yup sugar daddy, we need a new term

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[–] avoidperil 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well, while I'm willing to agree with your statement, now you've made me curious as to if this is testable. Is there a tolerance level where my personal wealth (or lack thereof) overcomes my glaring personal faults? Does the size of my wallet trump the size of other... personal... things...?

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[–] Peanutbuttered 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Do all studies require grants?

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[–] 654781? 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Pretty much, all studies costs money, from the work needed to be done for the research itself, to various costs of publishing your research.

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[–] klusterVug 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Maybe they don't require grants, but free money is always welcome.

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[–] TimmyTimes 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'll find out if you give me money to do the research

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[–] liberalpyromania 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

No, but they need money from somewhere

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[–] LeeHarveyTBagg 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

My brother got stabbed in the ear with a key by a girl who was moderately attractive. He stayed with her for another 2 years. That's all the research I need

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[–] liberalpyromania 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Aa he did not follow the rule of "never stick your dick in crazy, without a exit strategy"

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 2 points 26 points (+28|-2) ago 

I don't understand. How can this study be accurate if there's actually a culture of misogyny? How can men both hate women and yet put attractive women on a pedestal? Is this not evidence directly contradicting one of the core beliefs of feminism?

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[–] klusterVug 5 points 21 points (+26|-5) ago 

Just because they're attractive doesn't mean people respect them. The fact they're treated differently automatically shows bias, but I like your question because it seems some finer points could be addressed.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

Just because someone isn't respected doesn't mean that you hate them. I don't respect random people I see on the street, but I don't hate them. Also, if I hate someone, I don't defer to them or put them on a pedestal; I avoid them, or even get angry at them and tell them to piss off.

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[–] totes-mah-voats 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Well, respect is subjective and I'm not even going to try to tackle that now. But this is interesting, if true, because it would imply that certain biases allegedly leveled towards women are actually only leveled towards unattractive ones. Conversely, attractive ones should pick up some of that slack. Now this is just one study, we don't know how widely applicable it is to various situations, and we don't know how often men interact with women of different attractiveness levels, along with plenty of other variables I'm not taking the time to think of, because I'm at work and am trying to type this as quickly as possible (and also variables I just won't think of ever, because I doubt I could imagine every conceivable variable)... Also, humans are reductionists -- there are likely many, many other factors that go into account aside from just attractiveness. Placing too much emphasis on any one factor for such a complex issue would be stupid.

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[–] atheist101 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Im like 99% sure his post was sarcasm but this is interesting as well

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[–] STEM_logic 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Really what this study shows is that women can (and we can assume often do) achieve positions of effective dominance over men. Which does go against a huge amount of feminist "patriarchy" rhetoric about male/female power.

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[–] mamwad 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago  (edited ago)

For the same reason that adults tend to put up with children acting badly more than they do with other adults. If you think that someone is naturally immature and unintelligent, you're more likely to put up with their shit in relatively trivial matters. Combine that with the fact that men just put up with bad behavior from attractive women because they want sex, and there you have it.

Also, not every woman is attractive.

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[–] FriedrichNietzsche 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

More likely: some attractive women learn to use that attractiveness to manipulate. They gain advantage with their beauty and are mean to men who don't advantage them. This is an intuitive, unconscious process. This also trains men to never stand up to a woman they feel attracted to.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

So, if there is actually a culture of misogyny, shouldn't people at least say "there's a culture of misogyny against all women who aren't attractive?" I've never heard a feminist or gender studies student qualify it like that, but if they did, it would provide room for studies like the OP's, and wouldn't contradict them.

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[–] ciano 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

The word feminist refers to someone who believes men and women should have equal respect, it's just been stolen by sexists on tumblr.

As for the study, men put up with a lot of shit in hopes of getting laid. Nothing to do with respect. Just sex.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Misogyny isn't just a lack of respect for women, it's a hatred of women. I was saying that this study is evidence that there isn't a culture of misogyny, or, at least, not as widespread as feminists claim.

Misogyny is supposed to be a serious accusation, not a diluted definition about a lack of respect, which really could be applied to anything.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Are you seriously suggesting that tumblr was the start of that nonsense? It's been there alot longer than that.

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[–] VoatsMcGoats 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

no it doesn't, in the same sense that i may put up with a lot of annoyance from a cute puppy because I think it is cute, but I in no way consider it my equal. The puppy will get treats, not a seat at the table nor decision making ability in the household.

Feminists want respect and equality for women, not to be arm candy or solely a desired object.

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[–] darkrxn 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The context of this thread is that men put up with unfair treatment. You can't compare it to a puppy that gets treats just for being cute and you have to go to work to earn those treats because you're not cute; in this study, right handed men accepted unfair economic offers from a photo of an attractive woman's face, but not unattractive women.

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[–] sungorth 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Only 21 subjects, seems like the statistical significance is extremly low, if they are trying to apply this to all of humanity

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[–] Bootswiththefur 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Crappy journal is crappy

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[–] Snag 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

The power of the pussy.

But the best advice I've ever heard from another man about women was...

"A woman will give you shit to make sure you are the shit."

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[–] Zaqwert 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

In PUA lingo they call them "shit tests"

Women will both consciously and subconsciously test you with subtle insults and petty non-sense to gauge your reaction. Alpha males react a certain way, usually ignoring them or laughing them off. Beta males react a different way, usually getting super defensive or super apologetic.

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[–] lamamaloca 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The same actually seems to be true in reverse. The power of the sex drive, not one sex to the exclusion of the other.

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[–] themanlyhegoat 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Apparently those people never took the pickup artist's class... a dramatic reading by Tom Cruise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbanWHx5AFQ

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[–] Dantethebald 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I need funding for a new research project.

Abstract: Is water wet?

It will require $100 Million U.S. and take roughly 40 years as it will be a two person research team. We will travel the world to test all of the water for wetness. Exhilirating stuff.

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[–] themanlyhegoat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] FriedrichNietzsche 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ahh, subtle propaganda for Peter G Peterson's cause.

500 million dollars hard at work to set Americans against government spending

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[–] polymorphist 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Wow, #13

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[–] ronsor 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

seriously not a surprise, they are desperate for attractive women.

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[–] DiggToRedditToVoat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Its not that men are desperate its just evolution. If you can have a child with a 9 or 10 your genes are more or less guaranteed to be passed on for another couple of generations.

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[–] 1123_6536_5321 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

There is a reason the "pussy pass" is a thing, this study just proves it.

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[–] Vattnisse 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Interesting, but not surprising. Level of attractiveness always alters the way people act or react.

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