[–] lordvain2 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I never could understand why the Old Testament and the New Testament were in the same book, when the New is supposed to replace the Old. I think now that it is so the Juden can dictate morality to Christians.

[–] poptical-illusionist 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It was a hijacking of the real Christian doctrine and history by the synagogue of Satan.

[–] 2fast4u92 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The Jews of today arent the people of Israel of Bible times who originally followed Christ either. The original Isrealites were White Scythians. The satanic fucks we know as Jews are Phonecians and Edomites, who have since racemixed with whoever their host was to try and blend with the host society.

[–] tom9152 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Correct, jews aren't hebrews.

[–] SoyGoyBoy 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Judeo-satanic is real.

[–] LexOrandiLexCredendi 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What you're preaching is warmed over Marcionism.

You are essentially proclaiming the Gnostic error that there are two gods: a God of Love and a God of Vengence or hatred. The contention that the God of Love cannot be the God of the Old Testament because the God of Love would never cause suffering, obscures the facts. If the God of Love causes no suffering, then he cannot offer rewards either, for punishment and reward are two sides of the same coin. The tortures with which Jesus threatens the unbeliever are no less severe or brutal than those of the Lord of the Laws, so there is no sense in turning from the Lord of the Laws to Jesus-they are one and the same, Father and Son. There is no escape from accountability for our misdeeds.

Marcion was from Pontus, the son of a bishop. Having seduced a virgin, he became a fugitive and was excommunicated by his father. He went to Rome seeking absolution, but when he did not receive it, he turned against the faith.

His heretical views are many. He preached that there were two Gods and three eternal forces-the Just Lord of the Laws and Creation, the Good God of Love, and Evil Matter. He considered the Old Testament defunct upon the revelation of the New Testament. He rejected the resurrection of the body and professed three baptisms. He proposed that women conduct baptism and be ordained. He tampered with the word of the [p.66] Holy Spirit, editing his own version of the sacred books. Worst of all, he failed entirely to understand Jesus' message: "I came not to destroy the Law, but to fulfill it."


[–] cursedcrusader [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You misunderstand. The Old Testament god was not God at all. It was Satan as an imposter. The video I linked explains the many times Jesus retcons the Old Testament with direct scriptural examples of how Yahweh is exactly the same description of Satan.

[–] emperorbma 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Marcionism. Bogomilism. Catharism. These are the same basic error. You've chosen to follow a teaching that creates logical contradictions with what Yeshua Himself said. As I shall demonstrate through citation:

Then Jesus came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. As was His custom, He entered the synagogue on the Sabbath. And when He stood up to read, the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. Unrolling it, He found the place where it was written: "The Spirit of the Lord is on Me, because He has anointed Me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent Me to proclaim deliverance to the captives and recovery of sight to the blind, to release the oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor." Then He rolled up the scroll, returned it to the attendant, and sat down. The eyes of everyone in the synagogue were fixed on Him and He began by saying, “Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing.” (Luke 4:16-21)

Yeshua specifically said the "Spirit of the Lord" is upon Himself. What is He reciting? Isaiah 61. This is clearly in the Old Testament. These words are "ר֛וּחַ אֲדֹנָ֥י יְהוִ֖ה עָלָ֑י יַ֡עַן מָשַׁח֩ יְהוָ֨ה אֹתִ֜י לְבַשֵּׂ֣ר עֲנָוִ֗ים שְׁלָחַ֙נִי֙ לַחֲבֹ֣שׁ" You see the "יְהוִ֖ה" in there? Yeshua must logically have been saying that the Spirit of "יְהוִ֖ה" is upon Him when He said this passage fulfilled in their hearing.

Furthermore, citing from Matthew 22-30 (Parallel passages exist in Luke and Mark):

Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”

But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "It is only by Beelzebul, the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons."

Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? And if I drive out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

Or again, how can anyone enter a strong man’s house and carry off his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then he can plunder his house.

Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

In this situation, the Pharisees were making a conflation of Yeshua and Satan. Yeshua's argument is that their argument effectively undermines the Pharisees' own source of authority. You see the problem here? Your claim makes no sense in light of Yeshua's argument.

You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to Me to have life (John 4:39-40)

The Gospels and Paul's Epistles had not been written at the time Yeshua made this statement. What other Scriptures existed at the time to which He could be referring? The Old Testament...

Jesus answered, “If I glorify myself, my glory is nothing. It is my Father who glorifies me, of whom you say, ‘He is our God.’ But you have not known him. I know him. If I were to say that I do not know him, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and I keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad.” So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” (John 8:54-58)

Here Yeshua specifically describes the God of the Old Testament as His Father. His implication is obvious. These Pharisees erred not because their Scripture had the wrong god, but because they didn't really understand and follow Him.

[–] 70times7 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The Old Testament god was not God at all

So in genesis when it says "God created the heavens and the earth", you are saying it was satan that created the heavens and the earth?

Sounds legit.

[–] LexOrandiLexCredendi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No, I get it, hence "warmed over". Rather than the Gnostic dualism, you're simply substituting Satan in place of the "Evil God".

Again "I come not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it" would make no sense if Jesus were coming to fulfill the law of Satan.

[–] ScoDux 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The Old Testament prophecies point directly to Jesus as the Messiah. This is not controversial.

John 1:1 says in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

This refers to Jesus during the time of creation.

The Pharisees and Saudicees that killed Jesus are the same kind of Jews that we see running the world today. Not all Jews are evil bad people. It's the political ruling class Jews, just like in Jesus' time that are responsible for this. These people are Zionists.

[–] courtjester1111 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Thanks for that.

[–] lordvain2 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

I need to save this thread in case anybody asks me why I am Neo-pagan.

[–] tom9152 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Judaism is a copy of ancient egyptian religion. Amen is the father and call the other gods 'angels' to get an exact copy.

Fun fact: AER, judaism, christianity, and islam all end their prayers with Amen.

Also, this proves jews aren't the chosen

[–] emperorbma 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's technically impossible to claim that Judaism is just Egyptian religion. You're missing a key detail at the very least. The Ancient Egyptians were far too strongly invested in polytheism for that to fly. But there is a way this influence could have occurred which doesn't really strain credibility.

Pharaoh Amenhotep IV decided to reject Egyptian polytheism around 1300 BC. He changed his name to Akhenaten and started a new religion focused on worshiping a single god: Aten. We know for a fact that Akhenaten's court was in dialog with the "Habiru" in Canaan. It's entirely possible there was a dialog and these groups mutually influenced each other.

Akhenaten's reformation went over like a lead balloon in Egypt. His dynasty didn't last very long and Akhenaten's son Tutankhamun was assassinated. Afterwards the Egyptians restored their pagan practices. The priests of Aten probably fled and joined the Hebrews in Canaan which grandfathered some of their own words and ideas into the religions forming around the Semitic chief god "El" and the Midianite god "YHWH." The Bible itself states that the name "YHWH" wasn't known for God's Name until Moses came. One can quite easily see this being a rather hairy and complicated merger of the priesthoods that happened after the exile.

Point being, Judaism is most certainly not the Egyptian religion as it was maintained by Egyptians. It might be influenced by some of the ideas, but the core of the Egyptian pantheon was rejected in favor of El/YHWH.

[–] tom9152 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Aten, Amen, Amon, Amun, TomAto, TomAHto,

[–] grandmacaesar 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If I'm not mistaken, you are referring to the egyptian deity Amun (or sometimes Amon or Amun-Ra). The hebrew word amen just means "truly" or "so be it".

[–] tom9152 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You believe jews? What an amazing coincidence that it's the egiptian Gods' name used to end prayers.

Fun fact, All prayers, spells, conjurations, etc. are ended with the name of a powerful spirit. Some spirit names you know, hocaspocus, alakazam, abracadabra.

[–] LexOrandiLexCredendi 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

[–] tom9152 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Explain the similarities. One father in haven, circumcision, temple floor plan, an ark, don't cheat widows and orphans, same rules of behavior, semetic alphabet, and more.

also jews don't have one bit of hebrew DNA.