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[–] Padawan_of_Wisdom [S] 0 points 41 points (+41|-0) ago 

The author's bias is ridiculous:

GitHub's octocat knows how to fly a jet pack but still has some gender issues.

It spite of having the stats that demonstrate so clearly that programmers (on GH, at least) have no bias against women, this author just can't accept reality.

we have further evidence that there is measurable bias against women in computer science

Even when women are doing better than men, they're still somehow being oppressed.

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[–] onegin 0 points 26 points (+26|-0) ago 

From ars' resident snowflake SJW contributor-- http://arstechnica.com/author/annalee/

Who is dressed like Paula Poundstone while in a non-comedic role.

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[–] Loumedia 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Holy fuck.

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[–] ratsmack 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Douche hair, Problem Glassestm, guess the gender..... it all makes sense now.

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[–] datso 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yah... whereas the readership are all oil paintings...

The article seemed reasonably-written except this 74% / 78% thing... what is the margin of error they estimated for their method? That looks awfully similar to 'no difference'.

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[–] thegrove 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

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[–] luckyguy 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Having done a lot of github I can tell you it is hard to get pull requests. The stat I would have really liked to see is lines changed to get a pull request. Most of the women I've seen on Github do very superficial stuff. I imagine they get some rather useless contributions added while I as guy has to work to get his name on someone elses project and everything has to be formatted perfectly to the author's original style. Not only that but they have to agree with the need which is one of the hardest parts. I remember when Inara ruined npm's display with worthless fancy progress bar that hides what it's doing. That's the kind of thing that would never get merged if you were a guy. Here's her page. You can see why people are intimdated to not accept her pulls if you read her comments in issues. https://github.com/iarna. All sucking up artifical enthusiasm so you have to like me no matter how useless I am.

People are just more likely to be agreeable to a woman. Period.

Fuck yes they kicked her from maintainer of npm/npm. Revert her fucking progress bar.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

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[–] QuantumWannabe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Wow you're right. I looked at the GitHub issue for the progress bar causing slowdowns and she made a passive aggressive post about the bug report and someone responded:

iarna no need to be embarrassed. This only surfaced due to its immense popularity ✌️

Yah this bug didn't surface due to the progress bar's popularity, it surfaced because npm is popular and all npm users were forced to use it.

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[–] Padawan_of_Wisdom [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I remember when Inara ruined npm's display with worthless fancy progress bar that hides what it's doing.

You mean Iarna. Inara is the hot Firefly whore.

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[–] idle_voating 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There's no bias against women in STEM. It's simply because women are on average far less interested in going into STEM fields.

STEM jobs also need to stop treating less capable women like gold simply for having a vagina. It hurts the women who are actually good at their jobs.

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[–] In_Cog_Nito 0 points 25 points (+25|-0) ago 

Stop linking directly to that garbage: Archive link

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[–] turdovski 0 points 22 points (+22|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"Some people being better than others is bias"... what the fuck?

So everyone on earth has to be equally good at everything? If not, then it's bias? What kind of retard world are these fucking SJWs living in?

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[–] deadite 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Everyday resembles Atlas Shrugged more and more.

“Do you know the hallmark of a second rater? It's resentment of another man's achievement. Those touchy mediocrities who sit trembling lest someone's work prove greater than their own - they have no inkling of the loneliness that comes when you reach the top. The loneliness for an equal - for a mind to respect and an achievement to admire. They bare their teeth at you from out of their rat holes,thinking that you take pleasure in letting your brilliance dim them - while you'd give a year of my life to see a flicker of talent anywhere among them. They envy achievement, and their dream of greatness is a world where all men have become their acknowledged inferiors. They don't know that that dream is the infallible proof of mediocrity, because that sort of world is what the man of achievement would not be able to bear. They have no way of knowing what he feels when surrounded by inferiors - hatred? no, not hatred, but boredom - the terrible, hopeless, draining, paralyzing boredom. Of what account are praise and adulation from men whom you don't respect? Have you ever felt the longing for someone you could admire? For something, not to look down at, but up to?" "I've felt it all my life," she said.” ― Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

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[–] muffalettadiver 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Logged in to upvoat. I read Atlas years ago and damn if it's not one of the most prophetic books I have ever read. I am not sure that people who diss the book understand its prophetic spot-on-ness.

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[–] IdSay 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"the laurells are sour, said the fox who could not reach them"

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[–] thegrove 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago  (edited ago)

What kind of retard world are these fucking SJWs living in?

THIS retarded world

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[–] DoomMantia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

^MH101 link^

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[–] BottomLine 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

What could be causing this extraordinary and unexpected statistic?

How about crippling fear of losing job and being send to jail over fabricated charges?

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[–] turdovski 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

This is fucking crazy:

we have further evidence that there is measurable bias against women in computer science. Women who work in CS have to be better prepared and perform more competently than men in order to survive, and therefore it should come as no surprise that the few women who contribute to open source projects are more skilled than their male counterparts.

So women doing BETTER because their Github contribs are accepted more is... proof that women are discriminated against...... how the fuck they got to that conclusion is only possible to an SJW brain.

So if women's Github contributions were accepted less it would be proof that women are discriminated against. Since women's Github contributions are accepted more, it's still proof that women are discriminated against. Feminists make no sense.

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[–] ZigZagWanderer 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You know, it might take another 10 years, but I hold out hope that the public will wise up to this shit and stop taking it seriously. When it gets this blatant, it seems inevitable that even mainstream opinion will come round eventually. It's like the boy who cried wolf. Remember when everyone thought D&D was a satanic ritual? People at large seem credulous at first, but they cotton on eventually.

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[–] 0x7a69 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Peer review or it didn't happen.

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[–] weezkitty 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Or perhaps the women that create femaleish profiles are bad programmers? There are a lot of factors that can be at work. That doesn't automatically make it gender bias

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[–] DinoRider 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The Graph on the right in Fig. 5 is interesting. At first I thought it was important that for outsiders the acceptance rate is lower for known females and higher for unidentified female contributors.

Then I noticed something far more obvious. The acceptance rate for gender neutral contributors is ridiculously higher than for either type of known gender. Is there a ridiculous bias against anyone who clearly identifies themselves?

If you look closely at these chart's you'll see that the vertical is zoomed in tightly. The differences between the genders are only 1%‐3%. The difference between known genders and gender neutral is still about 10%, which is odd, but there is definitely no widespread bias against either gender here. A small handful of project maintainers could be biased against women they don't know and cause that difference. It could be a statistical anomaly.

Now I'm wondering why identifying yourself enough to discern gender makes you 10% less likely to have a pull request accepted as an outsider.

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I think what you are seeing is that the acceptance rate is higher for people who don't use google+.(where they got the gender data from).

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[–] DinoRider 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's a very good point.

Many of the non‐gmail addresses are under university or tech company domain names. If you get a pull request from somebody@ibm.com or somebody@wisc.edu it looks more trustworthy than one from somebody@gmail.com.

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[–] sinni800 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think I can relate to that. I can see if you know a person that you would critique their creation more than if you don't know them. It's some weird psychological thing, I guess.

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