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[–] varialus 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I like this discussion. I used to support copyleft licences because I liked the viral aspect of pressuring users to contribute improvements back to the community, but eventually I started to think about how I might be able to compete against big corporations with the intent of yes, providing for myself, but also for benefitting society Actually come to think of it, I think what I thought of before that was of my position as a cog within the machine. Who cares about which tool is used to develop a product? Does the big wig up at the top? Well he cares about the cost and the risk, but he's not the one who has to suffer through using a terrible too when a better tool exists, simply because the better tool has a viral copyleft license. It's the developer who suffers. Yes, copyleft hurts the big companies but hurts them by means of attacking their lowly employees. Copyleft is all well and good while you're living in your mom's basement, but as soon as you get a job and you have to stop using all the tools that you know and love, it's then miserable. Better to support the paradigm from the beginning that you'll be able to rely on regardless of whether you're living in your mom's basement, working in a cubicle, working in an executive office, or working out of your garage. The only reason why copyleft is so popular is that children are communist shitheads. Kill all children! No, not really, but I do wish young folks understood better.

[–] Duion 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

GPL is actually one of the most effective ways to kill off possible contributors to your project, at least everyone that could have serious skill or money, the only ones you are left with are the ones living in moms basement, but not all of them, only a small portion, so your possible contributors with GPL are a small portion of a very small portion of people.

[–] notenoughstuff [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Good points. I think a lot of companies gain more than they lose from copyleft, and a number of companies use copyleft in various ways. For instance, some companies offer both copyleft and proprietary licenses of their products. But copyleft definitely introduces a number of considerable problems.

[–] varialus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think much of it comes down to whether it's something they intend to sell, which is often what gets the most programming attention within the company, and programming is what I personally enjoy. As far as just software to use within the company, yeah, copyleft stuff usually has more features and is a bit friendlier, so there's no real downside to using it. But for me, what helps me the most when I'm sitting in some cubicle, what helps me the most, what enriches and improves my work environment is well written frameworks and libraries written by seemingly angelic servants sent from God, whose truly selfless altruism allows some pathetic wretch like me, who is working and supporting "the man" to have some small level of respite from the soul crushing job that my eternal spirit has had to lower itself into doing, in order to support the life and well-being of my body and those of my family.