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[–] oddjob 1 points 51 points (+52|-1) ago 

Back in the 80s, computer weren't easy to use. You practically had to type a small program to load your games from a floppy.

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[–] watitdew 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

member changing the jumpers on your soundcard and 2400 baud modem to resolve irq conflicts?

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[–] Nietzsche__ 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yep. Troubleshooting was an expectation with new hardware. Just like in Linux still today. At the end of the day you have some idea of what's going on.

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[–] totes_magotes 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

What sound card?

Call -151 

and enter your program in assembly.

3D0G 

when you were done.

BLoad <address>

To run it.

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[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

member

L (shift+O) "*" ,8,1 return

R (shift+U) return

?? I member that.

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[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

i member spending literally 4 days straight playing MajorMUD on a BBS service with a borrowed 2400 baud modem that was that bad at dissipating heat, unless i pulled the board out of the case and placed it on a wet sponge on a regular basis it would drop the line out and print gibberish across the screen. As there was literally a login limit of 15 users (all of us dialing in on single phone numbers) it wasnt exactly party central but it was ours.

I genuinely miss those days. And i genuinely miss Gamesuniverse.

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[–] roznak 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I didn't even had a floppy drive back then.

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[–] patriot_biz 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yeah, the Seymor Cray generation was impressive. The generation that followed him (Woz/Gates) was less technical, but still more technical than I am.

I grew up coding, learned in middle school.

Young adults today are so much less technical than my generation was, and there's no sign that recent grads are competent even to their standards. I don't think this tendency needs to trigger a moral panic or anything, it's just funny how technical engineers these days aren't, and they have no excuse for this.

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[–] M346 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah but you didn't need to figure out eclipse before you could make a hello world.

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[–] KikeFree 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago 

The difference between real interest and bullshit. Dev tools also used to be a lot harder to come by and if you had problems you couldn't just hit up stackexchange. That isn't to say that no good devs will surface today, of course they will, but it will be a lot harder for them with a billion pajeet hello world coders scratching for a job.

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[–] FuckFatReddit 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Every day I think someday soon pajeet software quality will have the same reputation as pajeet precision engineering but nope, let's keep outsourcing to pajeet inc

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[–] spherical_cube 1 points 15 points (+16|-1) ago 

Corporate mangement doesn't care as long as it sort of runs and they can sell it.

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[–] i_scream_trucks 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

it software quality wont ever improve until the entire industry is held to the same legal quality standards as every other service or manufacturing industry.

the horseshit going on now is like selling brand new cars in a showroom then claiming the engine you paid for wont be out for another 6 months if at all, unless youd like the beta engine which may or may not work, they blame your foot size for not being able to press the accelerator and demand you update your own foot, claim your low profile sports tyres 'could potentially interfere with the OEMs intentions and has therefore been removed by a cheap bald set according to the OEMs specs'

Oh yeah and then going out to the ferarri that was parked in your driveway only to find after telling ferrari for months you dont want a new car, theyve replaced it with a brand new fuckin ford laser anyway.

That is what the car industry would be like if it was the same rules as IT.

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[–] Nietzsche__ 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Win 3.11 with networking was near perfection. Expanding the user base then took priority (though it did end that damn DOS mem management pain).

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[–] Hmmm 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

The difference between real interest and bullshit

You hit the nail on the head. How early ones starts has little bearing on who successfull one can will be. What really makes a difference is if you acutally enjoy what your do and you spend additional time mastering it, instead ot treating it like just a chore.

I usually summarize this through as such: One cannot excell in a field which they don't enjoy.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Yeah... we need to do something about pajeetland.

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[–] dumb000000 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Millions of parents around the globe are realising that little Timmy’s computer knowledge culminates in installing fallout mods and just spending every waking hour with a computer didn’t turn him into a prodigy but instead created a race of useless man babies

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[–] bernitdown 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This.

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[–] Scruffy_Nerfherder 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This too

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Dude - We were hacking Time:

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=fQGbXmkSArs

E= MC cubed

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[–] TheBuddha [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

WTF did I just watch?

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works?!?

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[–] CrustyBeaver52 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

That's how it was in the other time line - before I came to the Trump line.

All of the survivors came here.

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[–] Koalemos_Grottesco 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

That's how it worked in the 80s, hacking has really gone downhill since then.

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[–] odinist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is from the movie "Kung Fury," which is fucking amazing.

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[–] Hackerman 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

pfft, you just don't understand the awesomeness of my hacking prowess

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[–] 0x90 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This time machine brought to you by Sun Micro.

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[–] Hackerman 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

you makin fun of me, or somethin? my hacking skills are legit, boy

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[–] spherical_cube 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Just think about all the hoops you have to jump through on a modern PC to scribble on the screen, to change the value of one pixel. Often, it will take you through multiple SDKs, multiple API frameworks, sometimes using infrastructures like COM. Nothing too onerous - if you're a professional programmer, but to a kid? Forget it.

On a Commodore 64, it was as simple as POKE to this memory register. You could poke different values and it would immediately show up on your screen. Those days are gone, except for one place, and that's the Arduino. And that's where I'd start any kid interested in computers. You do something with an Arduino and it shows up immediately on an LED light. It's still a bit heavier for a kid though, because the way the code is called, you often end up having to build some kind of state machine and a 10 year old kid is going to have a hard time with that kind of abstraction.

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[–] greenfascist 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I make awesome shit on raspberry pi's with python in minutes. I plan on teaching my kids that. some notables:

  1. (just today) a wifi router with a 16x2 character LCD that reports the current BTC price from coinbase in CAD and USD
  2. a car computer to play movies from a 2 tb drive and stream to multiple devices at the same time using minidlna. a status monitor on a 2" screen show's pepe plus CPU usage, wifi connections, movies streaming/mem etc.
  3. a computer to help blind people see using sound.

python is fucking amazing.

pygame is an easy entrance to programming games on the raspberry pi.

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[–] ChanceofRain 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I remember looking through the source code of the cooler games I had on the Apple ][e, they were chock full of POKE and PEEK commands. It was a bit frustrating to a BASIC acolyte such as I was then.

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[–] patriot_biz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yeah, bad is the new good.

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[–] speedisavirus 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I definitely did. I had programmed quite a bit before starting my CS program. The mental midgets I TA'd hadn't even done HTML yet. I went to school in my mid 20s

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Computers were new then. The biggest problem the millenials have is that no awesome cool new thing came around when they were kids.

80's kids got computers and infinite potential.

Millenials got phones with nothing but bullshit websites to go to.

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[–] greenfascist 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

millenials can buy a raspberry pi for the price of a flip phone.

infinite potential restored.

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[–] dontforgetaboutevil 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Hah..

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[–] Wahaha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The claim wasn't, that they don't have infinite potential, the claim was, no awesome cool new thing came around when they were kids. Now I know our opinions may differ on this, but a raspberry pi was/is neither awesome, nor cool, nor particular new as a concept. It's not the bleeding edge of technology, so who cares?

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[–] cthulian_axioms 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Top Kek, yo. Now if only someone would build a flip phone around a Pi -- I would buy one of those in a fucking heartbeat.

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[–] Anonymous_User_69 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Computers aren't new anymore. There's no reason for kids to be interested in them. They are their parents generations technology, which they see their parents using for work. Not fun, cool, new, or exciting.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Kids with high general intelligence and a natural inclination to a certain type of thinking will still find computers, smartphones, and tablets to offer nearly overwhelming possibilities for creating things. Kids that aren't so inclined will direct their attention elsewhere, or perhaps won't even have that spark inside themselves at all.

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