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[–] Sburban_Shitposter 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

lmao at “if they try gun confiscation, maybe they’ll leave you with a .22 and something is better than nothing.”

no, if they try gun confiscation, you shoot them with the guns you already have dumbfuck.

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[–] totes_magotes 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

While they're at the neighbor's house.

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[–] totes_magotes 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Something I always like to recommend for consideration but not as a requirement: A good quality lightweight air rifle. All the power of a 22 or better, not as loud, just as deadly, and completely immune to legislation. Go pick one up at the local walmart. and you don't even need a background check. You can get them as rifles and pistols though the pistols generally use CO2 cartridges (but there are some pump versions). You can actually hunt with these. And since these are not legislated at all, you can modify them all you want to be completely silent, have an air tank, fully auto, lightweight and all that jazz that you'd have no end of nightmares with legally on traditional guns.

Now that said, you'll have the same problem with ammo that you would with a real gun but when you need to hunt and some stealth and don't wanna fuss with legalities, air guns are where it's at.

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[–] 17290159? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They have lots of benefits but I would still rather hoard bullets than co2. I do really like the idea of being able to bag a rabbit or a feral cat without bothering anyone. Lever or bolt actions with quiet round are pretty good too. Funny story: I inherited a single shot cooey with the front sight pulled off. It took me a while to get my uncle to tell me there had been an oil filter on the end and grampa used it to take care of dangerous dogs or pesky cats :)

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[–] glassuser 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Get a PCP air rifle. They shoot larger pellets than the others, and shoot them much faster. And you can pump them by hand, none of this storing CO2 crap.

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[–] robot7247 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And since these are not legislated at all

In the UK and some European countries they regulate the crap out of them with FPS and caliber limits so they do not exceed a defined joule level on impact. There is also creeping regulation in the US regarding airguns:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gun_laws

Regarding airgun suppressors, there is no clear ruling as to whether they are legal or not. However, some states will prosecute you for having one if suppressors are restricted there -

https://www.beemans.net/silencers_on_airguns.htm

Reset your defaults on the Gun Ban Agenda, they want the monopoly of force with the State, not you. If they ban semiautos they will go after anything with a magazine next. If they succeed there they will go after calibers. Somewhere in there airguns will fall. They will move down the line until the 2A resembles the UK. Don't sleep on this, the State wants you disarmed in total.

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[–] Hand_of_Node 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

They make some amazing .50 cal "air rifles". Pricy, but not considered firearms.

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[–] 17290168? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That sounds retarded...I should hope they are like a pump or break open and single shot?

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[–] 17288471? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Article calls shotgun sized ".12 and .20 gauge"...it might be nit pickery but I would likely get my firearms advice from someone who knows that shells aren't measured the same way bullets are

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[–] FuckYourSafespace 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Instead of the pansy-ass .40, grab your balls and get a 10mm

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[–] 17290185? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Are you sure there isn't a more esoteric round you could base your family's safety on? Seems unlikely you will ever find 10mm after SHTF

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[–] 17290229? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I didn't read past shotgun because the author seemed like he was right on number 1 but still retarded. The time of buying or accessing cheap foreign rounds is over I think (probably because plenty of folks have 50K stored up somewhere). I am not super knowledgeable on pistols but I can see the benefits of a 9mm or 357/38, and if you are well practiced a .45 is probably the best.

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[–] Armpit_and_Ass 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

and you'll be all set like Bruce Willis in Die-Hard

Aaaannd dropped.

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[–] Dean_Wilhelm_Hawkins 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I was about to get 50 shades of butthurt over this list then I realized. It won't matter. Get whatever you're good with.

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[–] 17290286? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

People look at guns the way they look at martial arts styles...there are definitely best tools for different scenarios, but it comes down more to the individual and the training. An ill practiced moron with a hand cannon is likely far less useful than someone who can put 10 22lr rounds into your chest, neck, and head in a manner of seconds.

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[–] robot7247 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Article from 2013, you've had 6 years, how'd everybody do? Errors aside, it is an OK list but minimizes choices for children & women that may not be able to handle a full-size semiauto handgun. Is there a time when all hands on deck might be needed? Perhaps and subbing a 20 gauge in that role seems dubious to me. I'd rather see a pistol caliber carbine in 9MM for that role. Even a Hi-Point 995 with a pile of mags has a place and it's cheap.

Regarding airguns, they definitely have a place. Spring-air or pump types mean no reliance on CO2 cartridges but are mostly limited to single shot types. You can take small game up to squirrels & pigeons reliably with a .22 one and perhaps larger with well placed head shots. Quality airguns are accurate enough to do that consistently. PCPs are available in the same calibers that are multi-shot and with a hand pump you can recharge them (~100-150 pumps). There are other PCPs that will take deer and are multi-shot as well. Take a look at the Benjamin Rogue & Bullpup both in .357 and use regular bullets. A consideration if you reload in that caliber. Not sure if a hand pump is realistic for these but it could certainly be done given enough time.

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