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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Yeah, it's not. I don't have to live out there, I just want to get started with making something useful on the property.

This place is about 20 miles from town. There's no codes or restrictions on it.

I have a 4Runner that fits a single sized mattress almost perfectly in the back. I've slept in it and it's okay. I figure with the roof overhead, I could park it right under and sleep protected.

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[–] Thinspiration 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Tent first. So you can sleep there and basically camp while framing everything up.

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[–] GoofyGrape 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I was out that way one time. Once I got away from town, every other vehicle was border patrol.

Anyway, I don't think you could rely upon just rain barrels for water. The area gets 11-12 inches of rain per year. If you were planning to be there for any length of time, you would need to truck in your own water or drill a well. I would think a well would cost a bit of that $3,000.

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[–] Titus-of-Voat ago 

If that's the case, just save the money or get one of those prefab shed/mini-barns and put it together.

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[–] baneofretail 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Shipping container on solid earth, and additional funds can be used to frame it and insulate as well as furnish with everything else you'd need. It's probably the cheapest option if you can find a damaged one that would otherwise be sold for scrap.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Do you think a regular shipping container is better, or one that's already insulated?

When you say 'frame it', do you mean the outside or the inside?

What do these usually go for? I looked into them in the past, but have forgotten what it costs to have them delivered.

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[–] drakesdoom 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

A smaller intact one can be had for under 3k. Not sure on delivery cost.

That is solid steel floor, walls, and roof. Doors only latch from outside. Industrial paint inside and out.

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[–] baneofretail 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I mean frame the inside, 2X6 since you're in a fucking sauna, insulate and drywall, there's no need for structure. I'm on the west coast and the last as is container that I helped purchase 5 years ago was 1300.

Getting one shipped to west Texas would probably be a pain in the house unless you have a rail yard nearby.

The extra money would probably be better spent having a well drilled than with anything else.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If I go for a shipping container, I'd put a big roof with an air gap over it, then insulate the outside.

I agree that if it's exposed and has no draft (and it seems like most of them only have a door on the front, so a draft isn't possible), it's just going to roast.

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[–] BowtieDog 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

10/10 for location, from Texas myself.

Buy a gun if you haven't already, they're pretty handy if you're out nowhere. Also camping type stuff, probably a little limited at 3k

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thanks! I felt the same way, it is a pretty good spot. I don't know why people are paying the same or more for land in Terlingua Ranch.

I have a 1911. Thinking about trading it for a rifle and a double action revolver. If not, I should get a holster for it.

I figure I should pursue a CHL either way. Do you know if there's any animals I should be careful around up there? I guess, other than rattle snakes.

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[–] BowtieDog 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Your main worry would be spiders, there are some nasty ones that like to crawl in boots! So bring something to keep those buggers away

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[–] Cb404 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Easy model your home after the old adobe homes. Mud over thick straw bale walls . Like building an old mission. Cheap materials = great insulation . Start with a living space then addon as needed. Finish with a waterproof layer to the outside. Could cover roof with tarp till able to properly finish. Would need a decent slab of concrete to start. You will be amazed at the amount of stuff windows doors etc you can reuse on the cheap from salvage. Your in Texas lots of sunshine so solar and batteries will be expensive part to work up to. I was thinking pole barn at first but that would be a sauna in summer. Or a hobbit hole build into the side of a hill if you had one. If possible build into the ground consistent temperature year round easy to heat. Other option the amazing and unique structures they are building with spray able concrete over an inflatable bladder. Or find a tow able rv for the 4runner fully self contained with all home like qualities some really nice used ones for under 3k

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[–] 6718127? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

@Telocaset made a very effective and inexpensive home out of earth bags. Check out some of his posts about it https://voat.co/v/Offgridders/907324

https://voat.co/v/Offgridders/994095

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[–] Rellik88 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Rent a backhoe and buy sand bags. Dig a large hole. Fill sandbags with dirt. Make half under ground and above ground house

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[–] SkinnyMagna 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Trailers last pretty long out in the desert, and land code bullshit usually doesn't apply to things on wheels.

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[–] Slayfire122 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Build a Sand Bag Building. Here's a website that can give you plenty of ideas. Of course you would have to have something to sleep in temporarily while you build it. Shouldn't take more than a few days to get the first room built. After that, you can make additions as you please. To simplify the roof, at least initially, you can have a tin roof that's sloped to one side like this picture. Utilities will be something completely different. If there are no utilities, you will have to find a way to get them. Water can be obtained three or four ways. Use city water, dig a well, collect rainwater, and/or import water yourself (aka water jugs). Electricity is similar. You can use the city's power grid or generate your own power with a generator, solar panels, and/or wind turbine. You will have more difficulty getting gas without using the city's supply. Gas usually runs your heat, oven, and hot water. This will mean you'll have to figure out how to heat you food, water, and shelter or do without. You should not be required to pay for city garbage. I would recommend taking your trash to the dump if you have a truck. Now, here's the big one, sewage. There may be some city requirement for human waste. You might be able to get away with an outhouse though if you're really lucky. Above all, I would suspect your biggest issue will be with local codes.

Alternatively, you may be able to find an old RV for a couple grand. This would provide a livable space until a more permanent structure (possibly out of sandbags) can be built. It may also help bypass local codes because it has living accommodations, thus you may not need to connect to city utilities.

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[–] TeranNotTerran [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Thank you for your reply. Very in depth.

This place is actually far enough away, that I think any utilities or garbage service are out of the question. My only amenity is a dirt road.

That roof structure is pretty much exactly what I'm thinking of. If I put some kind of lowered roof section on that, can I get a more consistent shade pattern? Like if the roof drooped down as a wall on all four sides.

I like the earth bag design. I could probably carry enough earth bags with me to build a structure, just in my truck. I bet I'd be exhausted each night working on it, but it would be something.

I've also looked into the RVs. It's tempting. Even a box van or something. About the same amount of money (or less) than a shipping container delivered.

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[–] Slayfire122 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I would personally go with an RV over a shipping container. A shipping container will be extremely hot during the day/summer and extremely cold during the night/winter. They have no insulation or windows. You also have no way to lock yourself in.

Sand bags provide much better insulation than metal. However, they don't provide as good of insulation as the stuff you use in a house. Now if you choose a tin roof, keep in mind that this also won't provide very good insulation. You can also use plywood or osb for an actual finished roof. What roof design you go with is completely up to you. Just keep rain in mind when you build your roof.

If there is/was no government involved, I personally would go with sandbags, or "earthbags" as many online forums would call them. You can be as creative or simplistic as you want to be with earthbags. If you run permanent wiring, I would recommend you use some kind of tubing such as pvc.

It'll be tiring to fill and stack all the sandbags, especially if you do it yourself. However, it is possible and I would recommend picking up a bunch of hearty snacks, such as bananas and protein mix if you work on it non-stop.

For water, I'd buy some 5 gallon jugs if you can't get well or spring water. They cost $0.35 per gallon to fill.

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