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[–] satoharuki 0 points 77 points (+77|-0) ago 

That was an excellent and detailed explanation of the event. Thanks for taking the time to lay it out on the table. While there are parts of the government that do have an understanding of the level of security needed online, it is scary to realize how many do not. If anything this is a serious wake up call that online security is a real issue that needs to have time devoted to it.

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[–] brokenfingers 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

The scary thing is that the Hillary groupies are going to see this news and strengthen their resolve. Their persecution complex is just going to go through the roof. They'll ignore the recklessness of her actions and focus on the "vast right wing conspiracy". Then they'll open their wallets up and donate to her campaign. Seriously, has anyone ever talked to a Hillary supporter about these issues and heard them say "yeah, she may be a little unqualified, maybe I should look into an alternative"?

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[–] sadcat45 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Also known as the Backfire Effect

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[–] Madonnymous 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Gonna come clean. I really was rooting for Hillary for the last 7 years or so, and when this story originally cropped up I had downplayed it in my mind as much as humanly possible. I'm now either coming to my senses or giving up hope on politics all together.

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[–] voat-simulator 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Don't give up all hope, we need educated voters to stay involved!

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[–] swmarks 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Just go for Bernie in the primaries. The worst that can possibly happen is Hillary still wins the Democratic nomination.

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[–] Sleek_Hart 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah I did the same thing... Fox and the GOP can only cry wolf so many times over Benghazi and other random garbage before a scandal like her email hits and we've heard them cry wolf so much before we stop believing their random BS. But yeah this is a big deal.

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I downplayed the security risk because I just assumed someone who is head of the State Department would have a properly secured network.

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[–] epsilona01 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But I bet most of them remember Nixon's 18 minutes.

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[–] umilmi81 0 points 61 points (+61|-0) ago 

Well you went in a completely opposite direction from where I thought you were going. You went to the fact that hackers could easily steal state secrets. Which is of course completely true.

What pisses me off is though is that this completely circumvents the systems of oversight we the people are trying to place on our elected politicians. Emails sent to a personal email server can be hidden from Freedom of Information Act requests. Emails can be deleted without any trace. Future generations loose the historical record of what our government did.

These are the reasons I think it's a BFD.

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[–] Asinus [S] 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

I completely agree with the oversight, but I wanted to focus on the technical reasons why it was bad.

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[–] MrHarryReems 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Illegal. Unethical. Shady as fuck.

Yet, I'm sure she'll suffer no consequences for it. You or I would be thrown in the deepest, dankest prison and left to rot for eternity.

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[–] physicscat 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

And she knows this. She knew she'd be running for President, too.

Slimiest political couple on the planet.

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[–] umilmi81 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Don't fool yourself. All politicians are slimy. Some are just braver than others. It takes a big set of nuts to look someone in the eye after you've been caught being slimy and tell them everything is perfectly normal. Normal human decency makes that impossible for anyone with more conscience than ambition.

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[–] fullmetaljacket 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This is one of a few times when I wish there was a hacker that was able to intercept and save all the emails. Of course their life wouldn't be worth a plug nickel but how fascinating would Hillary's emails be that she thought were "private"?

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[–] Balrogic 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

As well as a bunch of classified information that pertains to active ongoing operations, including defense secrets, military ops and information about the schedules, whereabouts and identities of State Department personnel in high risk situations. Whee. I'd be shocked if the Secretary of State didn't have stuff like that going through the pipe. You can't run the foreign relations department without knowing what the government is doing and where the government is doing it so you can actively engage in public relations and/or damage control if anything starts to leak. That's on top of all the espionage that routes through consulates and embassies.

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[–] wafflesid 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ugh. She ALSO had a government email account that she used.

At this point there is no proof that any government secrets were being sent to or from her personal account.

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[–] schwanstucker 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

Thanks. I had not taken the time to go look, but I'm glad you did. Now I hope some folks pay attention. I wonder, though, how many other "important people" do the same thing? Upvoated!

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[–] dr_bucket_md 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

At least one other secretary of state did the same thing. I would put money on this being a fairly common practice for cabinet members, members of congress, ambassadors etc. The United States does not have a very good digital security policy, if they did, the whole Edward Snowden thing wouldn't have happened. Not that it's really a bad thing though.

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[–] oowensby 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

"But Mommy! He did it first!"

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[–] schwanstucker 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's different today. We have had several years of revelations of hacking by foreign governments. This lack of caution is very irritating.

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[–] ParadigmShift 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

My mayor is in some trouble right now over using a private gmail address to hide his information from the public. One of our local papers, the Sacramento News & Review, uncovered a few thousand emails and have stated that our mayor's emails were regarding public information and should not have been kept private. Personally, I hope he loses his job over this. Kevin Johnson is a scumbag.

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[–] NedTaggart 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I'm in IT. I have to admit, I'm am as far as you can get from being a Clinton fan. I'm so far from it, I wont even burn a calorie actively disliking her, I just flat out don't consider her.

The point is, I've utterly ignored this issue. On the surface, it seemed like more political CYA shred-the-documents crap one would expect from a career politician.

I did take the time to read this thread, and strictly from a technical perspective...what the actual fuck? I have to jump through more hoops just to be authenticated to receive corporate email on my iPhone than you are describing. This was a legit box for Secretary of State? Like...she can send and receive top secret documents? How was this not vetted out?

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[–] Dont_Panic 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think this is only possible if there was pretty meditated intent to diseminate info to other actors.

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[–] planetpiss 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

Yup, And Hillary wasnt the only one in the state dept and other cabinet level types to pull this kind of shit. There were other ambassadors that we know of who conducted business like this. Russia/China/Israel/everyone else with a spy agency and the internet salivates and has wet dreams for this sort of shenanigan.

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