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[–] ninjajunkie 3 points 92 points (+95|-3) ago  (edited ago)

If ~600,000 people (mostly whites against other whites mind you) dying in a war to end slavery isn't a big enough apology for you; then you can fuck right off.


[–] markrod420 5 points 25 points (+30|-5) ago 

To be fair thats really not why the war was fought. But still this shit is retarded and is the type of shit that makes me want to be racist.


[–] Moonbat 14 points 7 points (+21|-14) ago 

You know ... it actually was why the war was fought. If you read their declarations of war, it's right there in plain black-and-white English.


[–] HowieCameUnglued 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago

The Constitution of the United States, in its fourth Article, provides as follows: "No person held to service or labor in one State, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up, on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due."

This stipulation was so material to the compact, that without it that compact would not have been made. The greater number of the contracting parties held slaves, and they had previously evinced their estimate of the value of such a stipulation by making it a condition in the Ordinance for the government of the territory ceded by Virginia, which now composes the States north of the Ohio River.

The General Government, as the common agent, passed laws to carry into effect these stipulations of the States. For many years these laws were executed. But an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution. The States of Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa, have enacted laws which either nullify the Acts of Congress or render useless any attempt to execute them. In many of these States the fugitive is discharged from service or labor claimed, and in none of them has the State Government complied with the stipulation made in the Constitution. The State of New Jersey, at an early day, passed a law in conformity with her constitutional obligation; but the current of anti-slavery feeling has led her more recently to enact laws which render inoperative the remedies provided by her own law and by the laws of Congress. In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals; and the States of Ohio and Iowa have refused to surrender to justice fugitives charged with murder, and with inciting servile insurrection in the State of Virginia. Thus the constituted compact has been deliberately broken and disregarded by the non-slaveholding States, and the consequence follows that South Carolina is released from her obligation.

This is from the declaration of secession of the first state to secede.


[–] Devildetails 7 points -3 points (+4|-7) ago 

If it helps ease the existing tensions is a formal apology really offensive to you? It costs nothing but has the potential for an upside. Where's the justifiable outrage in that?


[–] Vvswiftvv17 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Nice try. That was just one outcome of the war. However, it was not the reason for engaging in war. The reason was the issue of federal over-reach of power vs. individual state autonomy.


[–] TheAmishPlow 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Our government is doing their best to erase that little detail from history. It's in their best interest, for the public to assume that they have always had this much power/overreach/input in your daily lives... History proves a government will never willingly give up power. It's like the blob. It just continues to grow and requires more and more people/money, until there's nothing left to consume, unless the people figure out a way to kill it.


[–] RedditIsPropaganda23 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you think the war was really about white men loving black men so much that they would die for them?


When the Confederacy seceded from the United States, the bankers once again saw the opportunity for a rich harvest of debt, and offered to fund Lincoln's efforts to bring the south back into the union, but at 30% interest. Lincoln remarked that he would not free the black man by enslaving the white man to the bankers and using his authority as President, issued a new government currency, the greenback. This was a direct threat to the wealth and power of the central bankers, who quickly responded.

Goaded by the private bankers, much of Europe supported the Confederacy against the Union, with the expectation that victory over Lincoln would mean the end of the Greenback. France and Britain considered an outright attack on the United States to aid the confederacy, but were held at bay by Russia, which had just ended the serfdom system and had a state central bank similar to the system the United States had been founded on.