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[–] Gorhbak ago
This is the truth of what politics has become today and it is a shame.
The Constitution is not a piece of paper it is a set of ideas on how the Government should work. Those ideas lead to what seperates us from the rest of the world. In the worst of times and the best of times the ideas that don't work, don't work and the ideas that work, work. When we leave behind Ideas and follow imagery and symbolisim as we are doing now we should be prepared for a endless spiral of decisions that will drag everyone further down while feeling like we are doing the right thing, it will lead to further mass confusion.
[–] Mishima 5 points 7 points 12 points (+12|-5) ago
"Liberals" were never liberal. They were Marxists that co-opted the word to subvert the liberal movement. Just like now they invented "socialist libertarian" - rinse, repeat.
[–] mamwad 5 points 2 points 7 points (+7|-5) ago
The word "libertarian" was used to refer to anti-authoritarian socialists long before it was used to refer to classical liberals.
[–] brother_tempus 2 points -1 points 1 point (+1|-2) ago
no such thing .. there can be no socialism without the existence of authority
[–] EngelbertHumperdinck 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago (edited ago)
Sometime before 1944. In 'Road to Serfdom', Hayek mentions how the meaning of the word 'liberal' has changed over time.
[–] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
New Republic editor Herbert Croly has been the guy cited as the man most responsible for moving liberalism in America away from its anti-statist roots and infusing it with progressivism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Croly
Since the 60s though liberalism has become more radical as it has been captured by minority identity politics.
[–] weezkitty 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
Regressiveism. There is nothing "progressive" about their ass backwards way of thinking
[–] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Maybe not. But at the time Croly was around America was in the midst of the Progressive Era. He did much to transform liberalism from its classical variant to modern liberalism which substituted protection from the state to using state power to protect people from the ills accompanying big business and industrialization.
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[–] AmaleksHairyAss ago
I'm sorry to hear that.
[–] hyperstupid 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago
What a fucking cool dude
[–] Grumpy_Old_Man 1 point 1 point 2 points (+2|-1) ago (edited ago)
Liberals didn't abandon liberalism. They've become more leftist and violent.
I'm not looking forward to the Republican convention. That's gonna be a leftist, violent, shit show.
[–] AmaleksHairyAss ago
I hate to bring it up but dude: get your suit tailored. You head looks like a pin in that thing.