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[–] Donbuster 14 points -11 points (+3|-14) ago 

Indianapolis native here. Carrier employs 1400 people total. They will only be moving their manufacturing to mexico, for a loss of about 700 jobs across the state, still devastating, but that's primarily not in Indianapolis, its in Huntington, which makes it significantly less bad, since Huntington is enjoying a minor boom in manufacturing that will ensure that some of those workers are back in jobs quickly. Though again, it's not a good thing by any means, but largely overblown. The fallout from RFRA was far more devastating, salesforce moved a good number of jobs out of the state, as did other companies.

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[–] 4280238 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

I was going to be sarcastic, but instead I will ask are you seriously that out of touch? It's not that bad because some of them can start at practically square one again working at another company? And wage workers losing years of raises, benefits, and the general perks of seniority isn't so bad because some other company in the area fucked more people over in the past?

Do you work for a PR firm? Are you rich? Or is it really possible to be that obtuse? It must be nice to not worry about your company bilking you over for profit and setting your life back 5, 10, 15 years. These people weren't burger flippers; they worked in a position that up until relatively recently, you could rely on having the same job for 30 years and being able to retire one day.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

He's just a fucking out of touch asshole, 1,400 jobs here, combined with the hundreds of thousands of other jobs lost to Mexico/China and you have a huge siphoning of the American middle class with terrible deficits.

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[–] Donbuster 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

Again, I'm not saying it's a good thing, or even an irrelevant one, the loss of jobs is never good, what I'm saying is that this issue should not be one of national importance. Regional? Yes. But pretending it's significant even relative to other losses in the state over the past 5 years, let alone other losses nationally in the past 6 months is nothing but pandering. If trump uses it as an example to demonstrate a larger point, then great, but it's not nearly as big an issue as several that were noticeably lacking in the debate.

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[–] idle_voating 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

When factories return to the United States how many jobs are generated? I thought that all of the new factories are automated.

There are the temporary jobs setting things up and the lower number of permanent full-time jobs.

edit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCgnWqoP4MM

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[–] Gorhbak 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I thought that all of the new factories are automated.

They are, the thing is, is that our economy is advancing to the next step and there is nothing that can stop it. It is the same thing as the Industrial Revolution where the majority of Americans were supported by farming and the jobs were disappearing into the cities, automation is a good thing it vastly increases manufacturing and the U.S. is producing almost double what it was producing 20 years ago, it is a massive expansion of wealth. The top 10 highest paying jobs after a 4 year degree that are in high demand are all engineering, just as after the industrial revolution you were fucked if you thought you could get by farming the nearby future you will be fucked if you think you could get by on basic labor and like I said no one can stop it, it is the pure nature of a free market. Just don't make the mistake of thinking there are less jobs, there are the same amount of jobs its just most people can't meet the qualifications.