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[–] doginventer [S] 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I completely understand the pessimism about our 'representatives looking out for our interests, but that is all the more reason to take every opportunity to stand up for ourselves. Their secrecy confirms that they are aware that the majority of people would not support this deal, and that if even a significant minority were to express the view of the majority then these backroom deals would become untenable.

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[–] Lodley ago 

Their secrecy confirms that they are aware that the majority of people would not support this deal

That's how all agreements are created. Instead would you like a thousand 2,000 page treaty drafts floating around? People still link to the wikileaks even though the final text is out and is not the same as the leaked version.

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[–] BigCheeze ago 

The secrecy could also confirm that they didn't believe the public is capable of making sense of a 2000+ page global trade agreement therefore relying on the media to interpret its significance to the public.

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[–] doginventer [S] ago 

Or that those signing on our behalf don't understand it. Either way it should be published and discussed before we are committed to it.

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[–] Gracchi 1 point -1 points (+0|-1) ago  (edited ago)

that if even a significant minority were to express the view of the majority then these backroom deals would become untenable.

I'm pretty sure a significant minority has expressed their views. Those in charge do not care. It's not just blind pessimism, it's reality. If we're going to move forward we need to get over this delusion we live under representative governments of the people. That's a fantasy we were taught and is what keeps people from taking action.

And your downvote doesn't change these facts.

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[–] doginventer [S] ago 

Fraid I don't posess the power of downvote, but I do think it's not in our interests to give up on our power to influence our representatives - however much they may try to avoid it.