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[–] Lodley ago
Giving your personal information to a random website is what always convinces our leaders to change. I mean if your not motivated enough to even look up your "minster" (no what the person is called in the USA you need to talk to), then your certainly motivated to:
Figure out who your rep is
Figure out how your rep voted
Remember how you rep voted
Vote accordingly at your next election
[–] doginventer [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
I completely understand the pessimism about our 'representatives looking out for our interests, but that is all the more reason to take every opportunity to stand up for ourselves. Their secrecy confirms that they are aware that the majority of people would not support this deal, and that if even a significant minority were to express the view of the majority then these backroom deals would become untenable.
[–] Lodley ago
That's how all agreements are created. Instead would you like a thousand 2,000 page treaty drafts floating around? People still link to the wikileaks even though the final text is out and is not the same as the leaked version.
[–] BigCheeze ago
The secrecy could also confirm that they didn't believe the public is capable of making sense of a 2000+ page global trade agreement therefore relying on the media to interpret its significance to the public.
[–] Gracchi 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago (edited ago)
I'm pretty sure a significant minority has expressed their views. Those in charge do not care. It's not just blind pessimism, it's reality. If we're going to move forward we need to get over this delusion we live under representative governments of the people. That's a fantasy we were taught and is what keeps people from taking action.
And your downvote doesn't change these facts.