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[–] darkcharp 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

I'm confused by the many Bernie supporters over here. People here are almost exclusively against authoritarian regimes, otherwise they would still be at the old place. What Bernie is proposing is a massive expansion of our already huge government. Not hating, just confused. Someone explain please.

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[–] porgysquad 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Simply put, Bernie attracts mostly young voters. The young make up the majority of online sites like Reddit and Voat, so you'll see a bunch of support. I must say though, it has gotten utterly insatiable these past few months.

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[–] b0ard2death 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I think it's also the passionate hatred the community here has for Hillary. Someone still has to be the democratic candidate, so it becomes the lesser of two evils, and to most people here, Bernie is the lesser evil.

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[–] fizzy88 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

When you say "massive expansion of our already huge government," which of his policies are you referring to specifically? I can think of medicare for all and tutition-free education as expanding government's role significantly, but what else? A lot of the bloat in government has to do with the influence of wealthy individuals and corporations that pour money into the political process (lobbyists, organizations, research, and candidates that support them). This kind of influence leads to tweaks here, an extra sentence there, maybe a whole bill written by lobbyists to benefit their employers. Much of the bloat in government comes from extremely powerful individuals, organizations, and corporations which pour money into the political system in order to twist government activity to their benefit...We get bailouts to major financial institutions because they behaved recklessly and they were so huge that their failure would have destroyed the economy. Bernie is against this sort of corruption and manipulation in government. I don't really see it as massive expansion of government, but rather getting government back to working for regular people rather than sleeping with the rich and powerful. Easing the massive financial burdens of healthcare and education on regular people (and paying for them in part through a tax on Wall St transactions, for example) is one major way he wants to do that. It's not about bigger or smaller government. It's about changing the focus of government.

Edit: By the way, socialism and authoritarianism don't go hand in hand. Socialism is more of an economic arrangement, while authoritarianism refers to the means by which a ruling party stays in power and the extent to which they exercise executive power. Also, Bernie isn't even a socialist by the classical definition (workers controlling the means of production rather than, like we have, a private owner). He is still largely, brace yourself, a capitalist. He supports private ownership of all but a few specific services/industries, such as healthcare and education. Actually, even when it comes to healthcare, hospitals and healthcare providers may still end up being privately owned, but it's just that government takes care of the cost while we do away with insurance companies and their bureaucratic waste.

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[–] Broc_Lia 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Edit: By the way, socialism and authoritarianism don't go hand in hand. Socialism is more of an economic arrangement, while authoritarianism refers to the means by which a ruling party stays in power and the extent to which they exercise executive power.

Socialism is public ownership of the means of production. If the public own it, that means they must form an authoritarian structure to decide how to use it. Socialism is authoritarian.