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[–] Angry_fapkin 2 points 55 points (+57|-2) ago 

Actually, RN here. Seen a lot of addicts. It IS a disease. Some people can be cured. Most can't.

That said, the legal penalties for some drug offenses are really draconian. Especially when compared to violent crime.

Public service announcement: Heroin, meth, coke...not even once.

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[–] Antichamp 0 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago 

I did coke regularly for a year. Quit and had no problems. Chewing tobacco, 10 years quit for 3 days broke out in hives for 2 days and went back to chewing. One of those is illegal. Just goes to show you that government has certain things legal only to profit from.

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[–] Draco 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I personally never have but from my friends' anecdotes coke is definitely one of the harder drugs that isn't truly addictive, just hard to turn down if you're a shitty person.

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[–] Echo_of_Savages 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

My best friend is addicted to xanax right now. Its hard to watch man, but thankfully hes trying to kick it

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[–] draco_nite 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Right Nationalist?

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[–] Eualos 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Not sure if you're kidding, I think it's registered nurse

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[–] monkbythesea 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I don't see it as a disease. Some of the addictions have explicit physiologic effects, but for the most part it is formed from controllable aspects of human behavior. You have a body if research saying that genetics contribute to the susceptibility to become an addict but this is overplayed.

Addiction has genetic factors, but is impossible to occur without risky behavior and poor coping mechanisms. Calling it a disease is a failure of personal responsibility. I really don't like the liberal push to protect everyone's feelings. Hurt feelings are part of a maturation process that leads to growth and a drive to self-sufficiency.

That being said, they are too hard on drugs legally.

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[–] feedingofthe5000 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

And for a long time, marijuana was the majority of drug offenders in jail. Things are changing, but some people (especially conservatives) have no realistic conception of drug use.

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[–] lovesyou 3 points 34 points (+37|-3) ago 

He's right.

Focus on the cause (addiction), not the effect (drug violence).

Furthermore, looking at addiction, and only addiction - is there a victim? No. There is no victim when an individual chooses to use/do something. Over and over again. It's a disease. And to be clear, and because people will bring it up, we're talking about addiction, not violence, crack babies, robberies, all the nasty stuff that goes hand in hand with addiction, but is still only an effect of addiction.

Addiction is a health issue, not a criminal issue.

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[–] 3616515? 10 points 0 points (+10|-10) ago 

Addiction is the effect of doing drugs in the first place.

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[–] RightHandOfTheGoat 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

I'm someone who's in support of legalizing, but you're right, people who do drugs get addicted.

Ideally people would stop doing them all together, but the drug war hasn't lowered drug use, people are still getting addicted at the highest rate in US history, and the way we're handling it is by throwing everybody who is suspected of having even the tamest of drugs in jail. People aren't getting help, they're hiding and continuing to buy from drug cartels, who actively search for more idiots to get hooked.

My opinion is that we need to face reality and take control of this market. Then, refocus of police and national guard efforts towards fighting illegal trafficking.

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[–] ninjajunkie 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Make coffee and refined sugar available only by prescription and we can talk about addiction. Ever hear a doctor tell you not take drugs? Or was he telling you to take only his drugs?

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[–] mamwad 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

When I was in the hospital for depression, they told me that drugs make depression worse. Then they gave me a whole bunch of drugs and I was happy.

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[–] DickHertz 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago  (edited ago)

If sugar is a drug then everything is a drug and the discussion is reduced to absurdity. Is fat a drug too? Protein?

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[–] SumerBreeze 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Don't be an idiot - sugar is incredibly bad for you.

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[–] ninjajunkie 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Refined sugar is nasty shit. I don't see the crap they are adding to everything to be the same as what is in something like an apple. Imagine everyone getting to Wal Mart and there not being any soda.

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[–] DoomMantia 4 points 5 points (+9|-4) ago 

Is that even debatable? Drug trafficking is the crime, not drug addiction.

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[–] Le_Squish 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

My neighbor was jailed for his addiction, even though he was a non-violent offender. They put him jail instead of getting him a psychologist and some rehab. I think he got 5 years.

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[–] thefloodcontrol 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Possession is also a crime.

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[–] cynoclast [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

We treat it as a crime today.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

It IS an disease, I didn't even know this was up for discussion.....

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[–] newoldwave 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago  (edited ago)

A disease is a malady not chosen by the person, but every addict chose it. So, Bernie, stop pandering.

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[–] cynoclast [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The entire medical community, and the country of Portugal would disagree with you.

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[–] newoldwave 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Just being PC. Besides, doctors and rehab clinics make money off these people.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Something so simple is should not be of importance, but the environment makes it so...

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[–] CervicalStrike 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I'm super right wing and not a Bernie supporter at all, but I think he's right on this one. I am completely on the page of addiction being treated as an illness rather than a crime, with the caveat that the addiction doesn't lead to other crime. Then again, I'm okay with anything so long as it doesn't infringe upon someone else.

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