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[–] IAmYourDad 4 points 20 points 24 points (+24|-4) ago
The Nazis are Fascist, which is the exact opposite of Socialist.
[–] curomo 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Fascism and socialism are apples and oranges. Fascism is a means, socialism is an ends or rather a goal.
The "national socialists" or Nazi party should serve as a reminder that fascism may (and is likely) come into society under a banner of good intentions or populist policies.
This is why eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
[–] Uncle_Tractor 1 point 17 points 18 points (+18|-1) ago
What makes hitler a leftist? That aside, the important thing those three have in common is not leftism but authoritarianism. It's the authoritarians who kill people, not liberals. (no, progressives are not liberals)
[–] Porphyrogennetos 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Nothing makes Hitler a leftist. It's a complete misnomer.
[–] Porphyrogennetos 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago (edited ago)
NSDAP wasn't really socialist.
Rohm, the leader of the SA (The Brown Shirts), actually expected Hitler to start making a LOT more truly socialist legislation after he came into power but he never did.
This lead to a falling out between the SS, along with most of the other military groups in the party against the SA, which Rohm headed up.
The Night of the Long Knives occurred partially because Hitler was not going to go down that Socialist route. Mostly it was because people kept telling him that Rohm was a traitor (He was homosexual, which everyone knew). Himmler hated him. Hitler never really believed it but finally bowed to the pressure. To this day, I believe most Germans still refer to that day as the "Rohms-Putsch"
Hitler only really ever embraced the nationalist part of the NSDAP.
I also wouldn't call Mao and Stalins system of government anywhere close to that of an ideal communist society, but that's a bit more semantic. Mao and Stalin clearly violated Marx' "Theory of Self-Determination" immediately after coming into power. Forced Collectivization is not Communism.
[–] Kurplow 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Pretending no rightist/capitalist governments ever slaughtered people in 3...2...1...
How many communists were killed in Indonesia? How many more were killed just for being Chinese?
How many were killed in the Congo by colonial policies?
How many people have been killed by the anti-communist subterfuge and outright wars fought by the U.S., France, and Britain?
The common theme is authoritarianism, and despite your desire to redefine the word left to mean authoritarian, it does not.
[–] schwanstucker ago
What an argument for US citizens all having CCW's and guns.
[–] theoldguy ago
Extremes tend to become the same.
[–] FriedrichNietzsche ago
:^)
[–] Diavolo1988 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
Economic policies are disconnected from the axis of liberty vs. authoritarianism. It's not socialism which makes you authoritarian. These people have fascism in common, and they share their attraction to fascism with theocracies and SJWs to name some of those we have today.