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[–] Gigan 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

This is the best news I've heard all week. And Fallout 4 came out this week.

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

With nowhere near the amount of media coverage. This is fucking embarrassing for SJW everywhere.

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Failing at everything is a badge of pride for SJWs.

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[–] idle_voating 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Funded by people who want this kind of information to be shown to the whole world, instead of being covered up.

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[–] entropyosaurus 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

This sounds like a really fucking boring movie.

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[–] Vagilante 4 points 31 points (+35|-4) ago 

Feminist here and I can't wait for this doc. I'm right there with her. Equal rights means equal for men and women. Fathers and mothers. It's not about letting women get the upper hand because we're somehow "owed" something more to make up for past grievances. I would really like to hear what MRA's have to say that aren't the stereotype you read about online or the MH'ers that have nothing to say but insist that typing in all caps makes them right. ugh. Even just watching the trailer I understood some of the pain they felt. Especially when it comes to domestic disputes and courts. Men are really poorly treated. My BF's ex is a wretch of a woman but she gets custody even though we make bank, live in a great neighborhood literally blocks from the best school in the city with access to all sorts of activities etc. But apparently her pussy and her shit trailer are more than enough reason to mark her a star mom. fuck the bullshit. Equality is about everyone.

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[–] 3166871? 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

Feminist here and I can't wait for this doc. I'm right there with her. Equal rights means equal for men and women. Fathers and mothers. It's not about letting women get the upper hand because we're somehow "owed" something more to make up for past grievances.

What you describe is called Egalitarianism. No need for the mental gymnastics.

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[–] Girlwithswords 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I like the word "Humanist". I'm for rights for everyone.

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[–] BrianFellow 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Equality is about everyone.

Feminism isn't. That word doesn't mean what you want it to mean. It means what the radical feminists want it to mean.

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[–] cynoclast 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I would argue that you're an egalitarian, not a feminist.

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[–] Atarian 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago  (edited ago)

A feminist giving everyone an equal airing?

I don't believe it's it ain't gonna happen. The MRA guys are are probably going to be painted as fat neckbeard autists who can't get laid, and there will be much feminist lolling.

And I bet $200K of the funding money was from them.

EDIT: I am prepared to make a full apology on Voat and YouTube if I'm wrong.

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[–] firex726 0 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago 

Actually there is every indication she will give a fair share. A that and every SJW on Twitter is opposing and trying to discredit her now.

Her interview with Sargon was great.

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[–] Atarian 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

<<hopes internally>>

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[–] Cid 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Wow she even hit up SoA? I was surprised to see Elum, but he's a pretty big figure, I'm more surprised to see SoA just for the fact (as far as i know), he's just a popular youtuber.

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[–] onegin 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

She is supposedly making it a subplot of the docu that she comes to shed her own views as a feminist. It really sounds like they opened her eyes.

The original article from Milo Y on breitbart that spurred the kickstarter taking off talked about how her feminist-leaning funders backed out on her when they found out she was going to give the MRAs a fair shot. The fact that she forged ahead and didn't yield to their pressure shows something.

I share your suspicion about these kind of things, but this thing has decent potential, I think.

Here's the Milo article: http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/10/26/the-red-pill-filmmaker-started-to-doubt-her-feminist-beliefs-now-her-movie-is-at-risk/

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[–] Girlwithswords 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The clip she shows is actually more for the men's rights movement than the women's rights. So if she goes back on that...well then she has other issues anyway.

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[–] zak_the_mac 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Maybe I just read Voat too often, but I'm noticing an upwelling of recognition in the average person on the street about the fact that men are getting a kinda raw deal at the moment. I really do hope that this documentary isn't a ploy to grab a massive amount of men's (and women's) money that sincerely support equal rights for both genders while actually the video just humiliates the neckbeard types, and portrays their view as being representative on the men's rights movement. :-/ Crossed fingers... But even if it is (and I'm hoping it isn't), the mere fact that SO much money was raised shows just how many people are passionately interested in seeing a more balanced view rather than the typical 'men are bad, women are victims' style of modern thinking.

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[–] Gake_The_Cake 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

but I'm noticing an upwelling of recognition in the average person on the street

I'm not too sure about the "on the street" bit, but yes, people are becoming more aware.

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[–] onegin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well said. I think the main thesis of a documentary like this should be-- well if you really want equality, including across genders, look at all the problems that affect men, are seldom talked about, and consider then what equality would really mean. In the end, anyone ought to take the common sense view that "equality" as it is commonly conceived is ill-defined and impossible to implement, and quite possibly much worse for everyone involved.

There are some men's issues that probably do deserve to be considered by legislatures and whatnot. Apparently divorce court in Canada in particular is a complete fucking nightmare, and absolute racket. Look up Dave Foley divorce-- he talks about it with Joe Rogan.

The other bit about conversation degenerating into horrible sexism-- I think a huge part of that is just that most guys no longer have a place besides the internet and places like redpill or MRA forums where they can be uninhibited. For centuries it has been an unspoken rule that men and women have separate social spheres where they can just be themselves. Men can bitch about women and objectify them for sport and so on. And women can bitch about men and mock their ill-fitting pants or small penises or whatever. It is healthy to have that segregation at least part of the time.

I haven't had an outlet in person where I can be uninhibited or enjoy some sexist humor or objectification for sport in a long time. I don't hate women. But for whatever reason it helps cope with the fact that the sexual attraction to women is so powerful. If you don't take women off the pedestal in your mind by trashing them, it is easy to slip into being a momma's boy or worshipping them or whatever.

I had this internship, and there was this one woman on our team. I was a sophomore in college and the other guys were all older, most of them married. We would go on walks for lunch pretty regularly and we would just trash the woman endlessly and just be as crude and cruel as we could be. In a way it was horrible, but honestly it was just for sport. It was a fucking blast, and it indoctrinated me into a world where men weren't pussies, and weren't ashamed of their own dirty minds. And in person we always treated her with respect, and didn't really have anything against her personally. She was just the easiest target. I look back on that time really fondly. I haven't had a situation like that in a long time, because my guy friends these days are pretty PC/bluepill/whatever, and I no longer want to risk my job by trying to talk shit with the coworkers. Sadly, the internet is the only place where I can still do that kind of shit. And it is getting increasingly annoying the fact that more women are showing up on the internet and trying to shut down the last place that guys still have left where they can be themselves. I'm being a little hyperbolic there but it really is a drag.

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[–] derfherdez 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I just googled Dave Foley, the kids in the hall guy. Damn he was with a BPD'er. That's the worse roller coaster to ever get on.

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[–] SNOOKI_SNACKHOUSE 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Not my ill-fitting pants :(

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[–] BetterDeadThanRed 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I believe it is fair when I see it.

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[–] goatboy 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Fucking feminists. You know what no. I don't care how sweet she seems. I still don't trust her. She's been touched by evil and no well intentioned documentary film will ever wipe that slime off.

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[–] RedLeader 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

While I don't immediately agree with you, I believe I understand why you think as you do.