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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 1 point 1 point (+2|-1) ago 

1 - not really. the thing is, you actually know your grandparents, if only through stories told by your parents. That's why claiming her grandparents were immigrants is relevant - it gives her a more direct experience. this is obviously calculated horse shit

2 - be serious.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans ago  (edited ago)

not really. the thing is, you actually know your grandparents, if only through stories told by your parents. That's why claiming her grandparents were immigrants is relevant - it gives her a more direct experience. this is obviously calculated horse shit

It could also be the case that her grandparents may not have talked about it. Who knows? She didn't give/make up an anecdote about their alleged immigration anyway.

All I'm saying is that the lie is petty and is nothing compared to her lie about being under "sniper fire" in Bosnia.

be serious.

She's a flip-flop and therefore a cunt, but that doesn't meant she didn't actually change her mind.

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[–] Empire_of_the_mind [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I agree that the "sniper fire in Bosnia" lie is by far the most egregious thing I've heard out of her mouth. that lie, along with her vote for the Iraq war in 2003 as Senator, is why Obama beat her. That's it. And it's why she won't win in 2016, either.