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[–] aeoo ago  (edited ago)

Nation states will go the way of the dodo when we have a compassionate and caring culture. So long as some people want a big advantage over the others, we're going to have struggle, and so long as struggle exists, people will want to put parameters on that struggle and chain that struggle inside a structure of bureaucratic formality to keep it as far away from most people as is possible.

We're not even slightly close to the possibility of governance structures just disappearing. If nation states disappear in the present cultural climate the power vacuum will be filled by corporate enclaves and/or mafias of various kinds.

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[–] Broc_Lia ago 

I'm not arguing whether they will or not, I'm arguing that they should. That said, the collapse of the nationstate is a real possibility in the near future: Distributed and heavily encrypted communications/financial transaction methods make it possible for people to live outside of their grasp. Just look at what peer to peer filesharing did to copyrights. Now imagine that happening to banks.

And I'd take private entities over public ones any day. I have far more leverage over the private ones and I can compete against them if they get too uppity.

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[–] whitewomenarewhores ago 

Leverage over private cooperation? Could you do me a favor and get my ISPs to stop fucking me? You will never have any power over a private entity unless we started everything from scratch tomorrow. Even then, it'll take a short minute for a private entity large enough to fuck you up the ass to be born and start fucking you up the ass. No one man can compete in every sector. You may want to step away from the Marxism.

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[–] aeoo ago 

I'm not arguing whether they will or not, I'm arguing that they should.

As a kind of moral North on my moral compass I also rely on anarchism. But there is a huge difference between knowing where the North pole is at all times, and actually living on the North pole.

That said, the collapse of the nationstate is a real possibility in the near future: Distributed and heavily encrypted communications/financial transaction methods make it possible for people to live outside of their grasp.

Everyone who puts faith in technology has lost the struggle for freedom. What freedom inside convention is about is a new and better way to relate to other humans. The tech isn't going to help us with that. If anything it will alienate us even more, and turn everything we do into an analyzable data stream. There will not be people anymore, just meat-based data streams. And data streams are something computers can control.

And I'd take private entities over public ones any day.

Not me. I would first want to know what kind of entities they are. The label "private" isn't at all enough to govern my preference.

I have far more leverage over the private ones and I can compete against them if they get too uppity.

That's just delusion.