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[–] Br0k3nsn0fl6k32 0 points 57 points (+57|-0) ago 

Same thing with Trump before the last republican debate. Everyone afterwards was all blah blah blah Fiorina...

People need to recognize the media are shills for their corporate masters and corporate masters hate populists and populism; odd as it may seem Bernie and Donald are cut from the same cloth but from opposite ends. I think it also helps that they seem to be the only two who really feel what they espouse as well as agreeing with it intellectually; gives each of them that feel of authenticity that politicians don't usually possess.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 1 points 63 points (+64|-1) ago 

As far as I am concerned, if the race is down to Trump v Bernie we'll be better off. Anyone the media pushes these days is because they were paid to push them. It's disgusting.

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[–] FeelinFroggy 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

We could elect a goddamned ham sandwich over Hillary and I'd be a-okay with that.

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[–] farmer- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

there needs to be a way to stop the media from doing this. they are so powerful, corrupt, and necessary for daily living. in this case, the media is so necessary for campaigning that its stupid. candidates need to be seen on tv so that people recognize who they are as well as hear what they stand for. Thats why Webb was getting so fucking pissed that the Democratic Debate was more the Sanders-Clinton Debate with a hint of O'Malley crying every other time he spoke. Of the Dems, I sure like Sanders the best, but I think if people would actually listen to Webb people would really like what he was saying. Well, except for the affirmative action piece.

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[–] Br0k3nsn0fl6k32 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Those are the 2 choices I would prefer as well.

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[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

odd as it may seem Bernie and Donald are cut from the same cloth but from opposite ends.

They do agree on tons of stuff. If Hillary wins the democratic nomination then a lot of Sanders supporters might feel closer to Trump. Both Trump and Sanders deal with pretty much the same issues and both of them are outsiders. Trump is the direct corporations that usually pay politicians, but he is free from the corporations since he IS those guys. Trump answers to noone, and same with Sanders by not accepting money from corporations he is free from that type of corruption. Both of them are. The main difference is small enough that I believe that Bernie sanders voters would much rather have Trump than another corporate robot.

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[–] Angry_fapkin 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

I would vote for Trump over Hillary any day. But I'd vote for Bernie over them both.

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[–] Br0k3nsn0fl6k32 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I hope more people begin to realize it's a 1 party system in reality and not a 2 party system; would help bring a wider coalition of people together if we get rid of the illusory partisan divide that has been used to distract the electorate from real issues.

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[–] YourDumbWhat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Trump and Sanders do both have a similar anti-establishment rhetoric, true. But I'm still torn as to whether I'd pick Trump or Hillary in that match-up. For every smart thing Trump says, there's some harebrained thing he did/said (suing wind farm developers for ruining the view for his golf course in Scotland, Obama not being an American citizen, the Wall). The same can be said for Hillary though, so for me, it feels like a Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich scenario. I just don't get the impression that Trump is the type who would actually take on the establishment: he's benefited from it too much in the past and seems a part of it. The rhetoric just seems a bit harder to believe coming from him, than from Bernie. I want to like Trump, but I'm unconvinced. He's better at playing hey-I'm-not-a-psychopath than Hillary is, but is he genuine? My gut's telling me to be wary. And so if given the choice between two psychopaths who'll say anything for power, I'm tempted to lean towards the psychopath that better represents my views on social issues. It seems like establishment politicians just use divisive social issues to distract us from the fiscal policies that benefit the ultra-wealthy and fuck us all over, in order to keep us from unifying and taking on the real problems, but I'm unconvinced Trump is the type that would give us progress in the fight against corruption. If he could do that, I'd be much more willing to overlook his track record on social issues (which is necessary to appeal to the conservative base), but that's a huge gamble to make if he's going to wind up being just another establishment president.

What would you do to assuage someone like me of their fears that Trump isn't more of the same, despite being in a more populous-looking package?

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[–] Womb_Raider 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The final sentence of your statement perfectly captures my beliefs for this election. Either I'm voting Sanders > Trump, or not at all.