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[–] TheCompanionCube 1 points 91 points (+92|-1) ago 

Washington Post concluded Bernie as the winner which matched their online poll. They cite google trends showing interest in Bernie spiking during the debate. src

The Chicago Tribune also concluded Bernie the winner which matched their online poll. src

Fox New's online poll showed Bernie as the winner. src

Slate's online poll showed Bernie as the winner. src

Time's online poll showed Bernie as the winner. src

I watched the debate last night with a few friends. I liked most of what Bernie said. I liked some of what Hillary said, but took everything with heaping pile of salt because she consistently says what the audience wants to hear and then just does whatever her billionaire financiers tell her. The only candidate that seemed outclassed was Lincoln Chaffee. In my opinion Bernie won by a landslide. I don't typically read mainstream news sources, but this thread prompted me to check some of the headlines.

What outlets are claiming Hillary won? CNN has, but another voat thread showed that the CNN international headline isn't as favorable for her: src

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[–] Buttershine [S] 3 points 20 points (+23|-3) ago 

To answer: The top 6 google results I clicked on did. CNN really got me though because the poll they conducted had him winning by huge margins. Glad this is no longer the case. Upvote for visibility.

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[–] the_not_pro_pro 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Clinton News Network?

When a clinton is involved how are we still calling it reputable. It's like saying Fox news is the best source for Obama's doings. The bias makes it not work...

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[–] airbreather02 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I was flipping by CNN post debate. I think it was Van Jones, and he said something along the lines of, "Hilary was perfect tonight." Did we just watch the same debate? She came across as a phony and then that laugh..

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[–] jimmyrussel 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Thank you, this was exactly what I was looking for.

Edit: Found it interesting Webb got a 32% in the poll from Time (Clinton at 11%!). Of the other 3 candidates he seems to have come out ahead, but not enough to be significant yet. My opinion is he's a winner, and Sanders might've gotten a slight bump polls perhaps but people are still getting his name in their households. This probably helped. Still a two horse race by far.

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[–] jollycynic 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

I like Webb a lot but I don't know how the hell he ever got 32%. He came off as unprepared/uncoached on debate. His bickering with Cooper on time allowance seemed petulant and beta.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 1 points 56 points (+57|-1) ago 

https://slimgr.com/image/Y1x

I kept one. This was how they all looked.

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[–] Br0k3nsn0fl6k32 0 points 57 points (+57|-0) ago 

Same thing with Trump before the last republican debate. Everyone afterwards was all blah blah blah Fiorina...

People need to recognize the media are shills for their corporate masters and corporate masters hate populists and populism; odd as it may seem Bernie and Donald are cut from the same cloth but from opposite ends. I think it also helps that they seem to be the only two who really feel what they espouse as well as agreeing with it intellectually; gives each of them that feel of authenticity that politicians don't usually possess.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 1 points 63 points (+64|-1) ago 

As far as I am concerned, if the race is down to Trump v Bernie we'll be better off. Anyone the media pushes these days is because they were paid to push them. It's disgusting.

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[–] Kaizervonmaanen 0 points 28 points (+28|-0) ago 

odd as it may seem Bernie and Donald are cut from the same cloth but from opposite ends.

They do agree on tons of stuff. If Hillary wins the democratic nomination then a lot of Sanders supporters might feel closer to Trump. Both Trump and Sanders deal with pretty much the same issues and both of them are outsiders. Trump is the direct corporations that usually pay politicians, but he is free from the corporations since he IS those guys. Trump answers to noone, and same with Sanders by not accepting money from corporations he is free from that type of corruption. Both of them are. The main difference is small enough that I believe that Bernie sanders voters would much rather have Trump than another corporate robot.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

LOL I genuinely laughed at this. Thank you.

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[–] CarlosShyamalan 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Was it an online poll? Keep in mind that Sanders is way more voted for by younger people who use the internet more frequently and are thus more likely to stumble upon these polls. Would be interesting to get some raw data from mainstream media polls.

EDIT: Time does provide raw data from apparently over 220000 people and its 54% in favor of Sanders and only 11% for Clinton. I wouldnt be too quick to make these allegations because while Hillary could definitely have some pressure on the media it seems to not be enough to blatantly fake all the big outlets.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep all the polls were online. It's just crazy that people were voting Sanders so far ahead and they claim Hillary won at ~10%

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[–] OpenSource 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You can clearly see Hillary won because she is on top ! DUH !

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[–] audiomoddified 0 points 50 points (+50|-0) ago 

All you have to do is remember this: Hillary is the establishment candidate. Therefore, Hillary must win.

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[–] Buttershine [S] 0 points 29 points (+29|-0) ago 

Everyone was concerned about Trump with the nuclear codes, I'm concerned about her with her infamous tantrums.

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Everyone was concerned about Trump with the nuclear codes

Trump's not the one who wants to invade Syria for our Islamic butt buddies.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

She is obviously CNN's choice as well. Moderators were sure to not ask embarrassing questions of the Hillary.

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[–] Subvert-Thoughts 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Time Warner, owners of CNN are one of her top ten donors.

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[–] the_not_pro_pro 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I consider myself more of a moderate but I would agree. With the email fiasco, the diplomat screw up, health concerns, previous reputation, and etc I just can't being a real choice anymore.

As an under 50 voter too I would like to see someone that pleases the age group more take the reigns too.

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[–] FPSFairy 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Hillary has health concerns?

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I agree with one exception - I'd never vote for Jeb. I'd vote Trump, Paul or Carson over her without a second thought though.

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[–] Disconnekted 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Holding on to your resale value?

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[–] Tsugumori 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Holy shit. I expected better from CNN. Not about bias or shilling or anything, but I really thought they could keep their story straight.

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[–] Spear1000 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You dont think that a high tech media outlet like CNN, looking at all their data pointing out that Sanders won, and then screaming that Hillary won, is not biased news reporting...are you freaking kidding me? They know exactly what they are doing.

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[–] WaitingForHitler 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

It has always been rigged. Why did you think some good president get assassinated?

I shit you not, if Trump or Bernie elected to be POTUS and still won't behave. The Overlord'd pull 'The Kennedy' on them.

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[–] Spear1000 4 points 2 points (+6|-4) ago  (edited ago)

Not only does the liberal news try and decide candidates through establishing momentum for who they choose by projecting narratives like this (Hillary won!!) that go against the facts, but they do this all the time with issues as well. Like gun-violence. The facts are clear that the more guns a nation has, the safer it is and with less violence overall. But because they, and the elite who they represent, simply dont like the public having guns, they refuse to accept that and just swipe that aside and endlessly promote what they want through propaganda. Its disgusting. They used the same strategy when they elected Obama. They shut down any criticism of his record whatsoever and promoted him to no end. The media as it is, is literally in the way of democracy.

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[–] Cainin_jair 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

um... why is this the liberal news picking?

Cons are drooling for Clinton because they know she is unelectable. Ask yourself who it benefits? Think for a fucking second and you'll see the Republicans win if Clinton gets the primary.

As such, stop with this 'liberal media' conspiracy bullshit.

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[–] ximian 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

this will be an interesting one to watch. both sanders and trump are outcasts who haven't got the blessings of the corporate overlords. they are unpredictable - that's SO scary for the MNCs and the 1%. One guy doesn't mind speaking his mind out to the masses, the other one seems to be speaking for the masses.

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