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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 31 points 78 points (+109|-31) ago 

Seriously. Every time I make even the most benign comment in the comment section, someone always comes after me and starts yelling at me. I'm seriously this close to blocking it.

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[–] fickit1time 17 points 79 points (+96|-17) ago 

Its exactly for that reason people should NOT leave these subverses.

The right want people with differing opinions to abandon ship so I say keep posting and who gives a shit about being downvoted.

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[–] The_Green_Bastard 14 points 37 points (+51|-14) ago 

Yeah I just point out they are ignorant self-obsessed dickheads every single time. Those people are just as bad as the SJW's they complain about. I wish the two of them would eat each other.

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[–] akuta 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

The right want people with differing opinions to abandon ship so I say keep posting and who gives a shit about being downvoted.

And the left wants to use political correctness to do the same thing. This isn't a left or right issue. It's a human issue. People, if given enough of a sounding board, will always witchhunt those who don't agree with them when in groups.

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[–] 4o4 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

I agree, it's why I'm still here

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 19 points 24 points (+43|-19) ago 

No one is stopping you from leaving. Also, I post right-wing articles all the time that get downvoated to oblivion, so I don't know if your complaint is valid. You may just suck at talking politics.

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 6 points 12 points (+18|-6) ago 

Probably a little bit of column A, little bit of column B. The wierd thing is that most of my views align with Voat's, so I don't understand why I get so much shit for it.

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[–] Black_Phillip 13 points 8 points (+21|-13) ago 

Same for me, I got assaulted by liberals in the Bernie Sanders posts. I think they are just pussies that whine more which is why one is making this thread in the first place.

And for that matter, go make this same post in Reddit about 'democrats' and see if you even get the time of day.

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[–] awerxzas 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

The top thread right now is a forward-from-grandma type meme that is debunked with a one-second Google search. Pretty low quality if you ask me.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Both the far left and the far right hate moderates. You could both be correct.

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[–] o_V_o 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

OMG.. someone is "yelling" at you through the interwebs. Get the fuck over it, snowflake.

Oh, look another person is "yelling" at you... and it's completely apolitical. Hmmm.... maybe the reason you're getting "yelled at" (srsly are the people on this site 12? You're the 3rd person I've seen using that phrase this morning. GTFU) is because you're fucking retarded (and just like a "PoC" deflecting criticism by calling it "racism", people like you just think "Oh, it must be because I'm a liberal!!! They hate my liberal skin!!!!").

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[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

But I'm not a liberal.

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[–] Lonecrowe 58 points 69 points (+127|-58) ago 

Wow... compared to the left wing circle jerk at reddit I think this is quite moderate. I think you just don't know the difference you've been so far left for so long you've lost touch with reality.

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[–] FriedrichNietzsche [S] 29 points 57 points (+86|-29) ago 

I'm a self-described right winger. I would have been solidly republican in the 1950's. The right has shifted of the spectrum and is not a parliamentary party. To be left of the republican leadership is to be a breathing human being.

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[–] The_Green_Bastard 14 points 50 points (+64|-14) ago 

Now that's the truth. The Republican party has mutated into a cauldron of self-affirming I ignorance. I think conservatives, real ones, not just crazy people that hate blacks, Muslims, and anyone left of themselves, probably feel abandoned by political parties.

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[–] Mercer-Frey 31 points 12 points (+43|-31) ago 

And I'm a self-described prancing pony. We can pretend together.

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[–] LostUnderTheMountain 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Yep. And thats the problem with politics in general. Align with a view that is polarizing, say your party stands for that, let the crazies spew the bullshit all over all the medias. This way nothing with any substance is ever talked about, and they can hide the tpp behind gun control discussion rhetoric.

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[–] makaw 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

True that. Same with politicians until they're looking at the last few months of election season. Then the real BS flows.

Bush is starting his BS faucet earlier than most but I'm not really buying. Clinton seems to have abandoned it altogether.

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[–] gtcom 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Just curious, since there's no moderate party, who did you vote for in the last two presidential elections?

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[–] AKnightAlone 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I'll be honest with you. I'm an extreme humanist. That means I'm a liberal in just about every sense. I've enjoyed the Reddit hivemind in most discussions for years. I also happened to love Voat discussions because I wouldn't immediately feel shunned if I have an opinion that isn't particularly emotional or whatever. You know, a humanist doesn't necessarily have to worship all life. I consider reduction of suffering to be the greatest method to approach humanism, so that can involve some seemingly anti-humanist views. Voat doesn't seem to judge me for that. I love that feeling. I enjoy not feeling completely shunned for being logical.

However... Voat is also conservative enough that I deeply sense the tribalism. Both sides have tribalism, but the conservative side also tends to have a lot of shame and anti-humanism. You know, the whole "boot straps" mentality, for example. As if it's somehow the "best thing" for humanity if we hate each other and leave the weak to the wolves. What I see is a fuckload of shitty conservative opinion articles that pull out those knee-jerk shame reactions. Oh, look! A Muslim did something bad! SEE, OBAMA?!?! WHAT ARE YOU THINKING BEING SUCH A MUZZIE LOVER!??! I mean, come on. People jerk off over shitty generalizations on here. If a person holds an opinion and genuinely almost feels a degree of power or pleasure in it, chances are it's just a fucked up opinion. No one wants to lower their pride to look for the best answers, though. Voat is ultimately just a less popular side of the same forum coin as Reddit. I can appreciate parts of both sites, but I feel like many people are just misdirected.

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[–] grodius 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

reddit is pretty bad of a circlejerk, but this is insane over here... I am constantly amazed that some random racist comment will have like 50 upvoats and 2 downvoats on a political sub.

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[–] thuvia_1 8 points 29 points (+37|-8) ago  (edited ago)

does it say anywhere that the downvoat is not a disagree button? i'm wondering if that idea isn't a holdover from reddit.

i think it's funny when people's egos are so fragile that being downvoated will shut them up and send them packing. i understand that people are not necessarily going to agree with me, and i'm not so arrogant to think that someone who does disagree with me is going to write a dissertation (or even a single word) explaining why, as though it's owed me because someone had the audacity to downvoat.

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[–] nymphaea-alba 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I think when someone gets too many downvotes, it prevents them from commenting, and it's not as easy to make an alternate account on voat as it was on reddit. So it makes sense that people will want to avoid downvoats as much as possible, even if they aren't concerned about popularity

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[–] hels 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

It's funny because I want to see Trump vs Sanders. I don't think either of them would be great leaders but at least they have ideologies differing from the standard Republican/Democrat. The course America is on is not a good one. The government wants us to be mindless sheep accepting handouts without possibility to live a better life. Anything different cannot be worse for me, my children and hopefully future grandchildren.

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[–] deathcomesilent 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

I use the down arrow as a disagree button quite regularly. Its the only way to keep some balance here, between the sjw's and the political campaigns.

The fact is, people downvote when they don't like the content. It's a beautifully simple formula that reddit managed to mess up with their "safe spaces" agenda.

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[–] peacegnome 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Then you aren't using it as a "disagree button"; SJWs and campaigners are not seeking to have meaningful conversations, and in the case of SJWs they mean to derail any meaningful conversation that isn't headed the way they want. So they are not just not adding anything of value, they are actually taking away value.

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[–] CowWithBeef 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Downvoat to disagree is the primary cause of circlejerks. It censors opinions that do not align with the majority of people who downvoat to disagree. Some of the people with unpopular opinions stop using the sub. Echo chamber created. Content goes to shit. Never downvoat to disagree unless you are actually trying to destroy the sub.

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[–] thuvia_1 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

downvoating does not censor. it might make it so the comment is hidden, but there's a little plus arrow you can press to view the comments.

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yes, when voat was first created that was the idea. The downvoat was to only be used in the case of spam or deliberate trolling (not disagree trolling, but crazy trolling). Lots of PSA's and discussions, even petitions to remove the downvoat entirely. It's why there use to be a limit on downvoating. To use them wisely. Ten a day until you reached 100 CCP. Voat was entirely different then. The reddit exodus really brought over a lot of trash.

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[–] thuvia_1 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's why there use to be a limit on downvoating.

there is a limit to downvoating currently. it's zero a day until you reach 100. it's entirely frustrating on my alt account.

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[–] 2791415? 6 points 23 points (+29|-6) ago  (edited ago)

How do demagogues on this sub control discussion? Do down voats prevent you from making an argument? Maybe you just can't disprove what they're saying so you're throwing your hands up? Why not go into one of these threads you despise and try to take a stand for what you believe in?

Also, this is where you showed your true colors: "But who bothers to check basic facts or think? Fact checking is for hippy liberals. Nice to see a healthy dose of obvious racism, though." doesn't sound like you legitimately want a discussion, even though you claim for some reason people wanna circle jerk it looks like you're quite guilty of the same.

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[–] Ecilsemoh 11 points 7 points (+18|-11) ago 

Of course downvoats prevent argument being heard when they either force the statement to the bottom of the page or hide it from view. Please don't be disingenuous.

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[–] peacegnome 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago  (edited ago)

it might move it to the bottom of whatever branch you were replying to, but that hardly keeps people from seeing it at this point (we don't have multi-thousand comment threads here). On Digg you got buried (your post was hidden) and on reddit your post is deleted (without you knowing), so voat is infinitely better than either of those.

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[–] 2791736? 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

Lol, it was a legit question, I was never on reddit and have only been here a couple of months :D

But man, you gotta make your points. Most people want a discussion, few people want a circle jerk. We can have mutual respect and disagree at the same time.

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[–] OleDixie 7 points 19 points (+26|-7) ago 

Honestly I think The Trump vs. Bernie shit is quite fun. It' s more of a Conservative VS. Liberal circle jerk. Also change your name if you're not gonna be a proper Nihilist.

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[–] FriedrichNietzsche [S] 8 points 21 points (+29|-8) ago 

Nietzsche is not a nihilist.

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[–] shoutintothevoid 1 points 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

It's a common misconception, he rails against nihilism often in his writings.

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[–] intrepiddemise 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I have noticed a lot of pro-Bernie posts and a lot of cop hate for such a "right wing" place. But maybe that's just me.

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[–] fizzy88 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

It's called confirmation bias.

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[–] HomerChimpson 7 points 19 points (+26|-7) ago 

It would make sense, as reddit politics is a left wing circle jerk. Thus forcing the right wing jerking elsewhere.

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[–] fizzy88 8 points -3 points (+5|-8) ago 

the right wing jerking

You mean r/fatpeoplehate? I'm pretty sure the movement of that group from there to here heavily influenced what voat has become.

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[–] PM_ME_YOUR_FALAFEL 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

I don't understand you logic with FPH being a "right wing community". It's like saying /r/Coontown is right wing as well, even though we know that many people in the crowd are either politically neutral or just trolls.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Oh stfu, fph doesnt care about political ideology. We are only anti-sjw ("progressives") because fat acceptance falls under their umbrella.

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[–] trollingisavaccine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

because arbitrary hate is right wing

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[–] bubbleki 16 points 14 points (+30|-16) ago 

What I don't understand is why left wing circlejerk aficionados want to come to voat. They have a safe-space called reddit.

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[–] Leinhart 12 points 14 points (+26|-12) ago 

Fuck having a "safe space". Any reasonable and thinking individual is willing to listen to a dissenting view if its delivered with some semblance of basic logic along with examples rather than empty, shallow rhetoric. Instead, @FredrichNietzsche 's point is that this simply isn't happening. The majority of voat's users, as evidenced by this thread, just want to scream and yell rather than have a reasonable conversation. The second someone hints they might have a different point of view the discussion is over and you may as well log out by that point because you're going to be berated with ignorance that would give 4chan a fucking stroke.

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[–] BobbyLoblaw 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

If you have a strong point and strong mind you cannot be afraid of other new information. I read opposing opinions and sometimes interact because it allows me to take in the new information and see if it changes my opinion, debate helps to focus my own opinions, and debate may help to change another's mind.

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[–] trollingisavaccine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

berated with ignorance that would give 4chan a fucking stroke.

at least 4chan never has to log out. They can change their association at any moment for the lulz or otherwise.

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

Exactly this. Maybe the vote count is moderate, but the comments are just hateful right wing yelling. I posted a short history video I thought was fairly insightful (the series was picked up by pbs) and the comments about "cuck" this and that were worse than youtube.

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[–] FriedrichNietzsche [S] 10 points 3 points (+13|-10) ago 

The opposite of a circle jerk isn't another circle jerk.

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[–] bubbleki 5 points 6 points (+11|-5) ago 

That is your characterization.

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[–] trollingisavaccine 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What I don't understand is why left wing circlejerk aficionados want to come to voat.

Probably because theyre not circlejerkers and actually welcome dissenters, enemies, and friends in other camps.

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[–] mudcatca 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

I'm a former liberal Republican, and sort of agree with you. It's the authoritarian shoutdown that got me out of Reddit, and the lack thereof I found attractive here. But as folks have settled in, there seems to exist a growing rightish lean in towards the shoutdown/shutdown. Locking in of positions in lieu of discourse on values and beliefs. Sad it gets simplified to left vs right instead of liberty vs authoritarianism.

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[–] Pwning4Ever 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

For a while it seemed like politics was shifting more into libertarian vs authoritarian views, it went back to left vs right issues

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[–] Yazi 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

Am I being detained?

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