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[–] TheBrokenWorld ago  (edited ago)

Not in this instance as i have shown

Where?

i have several times, just becuase you dsiagree with it does not mean you have disproved it shrug

You can't prove yourself to be correct, so you must be wrong.

More than that .. the provide for food, they provide for self-defence, and they provide for sport ( as we see in the Olympics )

You can't use money to obtain food. Obtaining food requires physical resources and labor, money is simply a means of controlling consumption. It's only purpose is to control human beings.

you say that money is made by the strong at the expense of the weak? What strength do you mean? It is not the strength of guns or muscles. Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think. Then is money made by the man who invents a motor at the expense of those who did not invent it? Is money made by the intelligent at the expense of the fools? By the able at the expense of the incompetent? By the ambitious at the expense of the lazy? Money is made–before it can be stolen. Money is made by the effort of every honest man, each to the extent of his ability. An honest man is one who knows that he can’t consume more than he has produced.’

Money isn't automatically provided to those who better humankind, and it certainly isn't provided in proportion to how much a person has bettered humankind when it is provided. Only those who seek out wealth will obtain it, and seeking wealth is a waste of human potential. Stephen Hawking is one of the most brilliant minds to ever live, and he sees this. It's only those who are blinded by greed and the futile pursuit of power who fail to understand this.

Corporatism ( fascism ) is merely national socialism to include the legal fiction of corporations. Corporations are created by government. Anybody talking about the evils of corporations is just another beneficiary of corporate money in Politics.

The government is owned by the wealthy.

as I stated , government

Money. Money is still power without government.

as so the problem is people not money ... thanks for proving my point

One cannot exist without the other. Edit: Man, that mental conditioning is hard to break. Money cannot exist without people, people can certainly exist without money.

Money has no meaning without people.

No the monopoly of vilence, theft and coercion possessed by government allows them to do that

Money provides the means to inflict violence. One does not need a government to fund armies.

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[–] brother_tempus ago 

You can't use money to obtain food.

the existence of a grocery store and restaurant disproves your unsourced opinion

Money isn't automatically provided to those who better humankind,

Better in what way ... those who provide goods and services better the life of all and they do so for money ..... thus money is the tool used by those who work to make the lives of all better

The government is owned by the wealthy.

Becuase the government meddles with those who have money ... thus as i have stated it is a government-created problem ... not a money-created one

Money.

Government ... government prints the money , government makes policies on the money ....

Government

Money provides

No, the idiots who vote do

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[–] TheBrokenWorld ago 

the existence of a grocery store and restaurant disproves your unsourced opinion

Money controls your ability to remove the food from the grocery store, it doesn't provide the means by which human beings obtain food.

Better in what way .

That should be obvious.

those who provide goods and services better the life of all and they do so for money

In our current system, most people are FORCED to provide goods and services for others, and they're rarely compensated fairly.

...thus money is the tool used by those who work to make the lives of all better

Money is the tool that allows the wealthy to exploit the working class.

Becuase the government meddles with those who have money...

Those who have money would control those who do not without the existence of government.

...hus as i have stated it is a government-created problem ... not a money-created one

Government is not power, money is power.

Government ... government prints the money , government makes policies on the money ....

Money can exist without government.

No, the idiots who vote do

Only those who have money have the power to vote.