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[–] Gake_The_Cake 18 points 56 points (+74|-18) ago 

All attempts will be deemed "racist" and "Islamophobic." You can't win. Their emotional arguments are superior because it literally doesn't matter what you say. You could argue that they're letting known racists and child fuckers into the country- you won't win. That is the current state of the country.

What you could do is form a coalition to begin a mass exodus from the country. They can't exactly tell you what to do when you have your own country, now can they? I mean, aside from their aggressive bullshit they do to Russia. Honestly, just move to Russia. They'd love to hear about it- and they'd even help you get set up. They hate muslims.

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[–] Many_faced_god 5 points 50 points (+55|-5) ago 

Can't tell if you're attempting sarcasm. There are 2-7 million Muslims in the USA, a country with a total population around 320 million. There are 20 million native Muslims in Russia, not counting immigrants, a country with a population around 140 million. Not to mention Russia's political ties to all sorts of Islamic nations. I agree that Islam is a truly terrible set of beliefs, just as all religions are. The problem is the beliefs, not the people. You only reinforce their beliefs.

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[–] SiWofos 1 point 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

Despite the numbers, Muslims (and indeed anyone tempted not to toe the line) are kept in their place in Russia. Russia does not tolerate any nonsense in that respect: see the Chechen wars and also the strong general state control of religion (for example, every religious building is state property. Did you know that?)

If the numbers you quote are off-putting, @Gake_The_Cake could as easily have suggested a mono-cultural, Christian satellite of Russia like Armenia.

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[–] Moonbat 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

20 million, huh? Out of 140? lol No wonder they hate them.

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[–] organicgangbang 5 points 24 points (+29|-5) ago 

Just because they subjugate and abuse women doesn't mean we shouldn't embrace their culture!

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[–] Pawn 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

you don't hear about feminists talking about Muslims and their rape culture. You know why? Because they're scared of them.

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[–] Somali 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Actually we don't hate Muslims. Putin just opened Russia's biggest Mosque a couple days ago and by and large we didn't give a fuck, except that the bell tolls at 6 and is loud as fuck. But the Muslims here are overwhelmingly moderate. This is because we keep all the really crazy North African/Saudi/Paki ones out and the ones we have know that if they stop acting up we'll burn down their farmers markets while the cops stand by, like we did a couple years ago when one of them was dumb enough to kill a Russian woman. Also we beat them the fuck down in Chechnya, and back in the day Stalin literally picked all the Chechens up by the napes and shuffled them to Siberia because he was reading about Andrew Jackson and wanted a Trail of Tears of his own. But yeah, they behave and we act all conciliatory and respectful towards them and it's similar to a big happy family where no one crosses the dad with the extension cord who goes by Spider and has seen some shit.

So yeah, come to Russia, if shit hits the fan at least you can go down fighting alongside the rest of society instead of being told how intolerant you are by them. Also our women are really hot and haven't bought into the HAES bullshit and there's 6 of them for every 4 guys and they need your meaty American khok and the ruble is down and you're gonna have a good time.

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[–] throwaway56789 ago 

Can't you just wipe out the Chechens? I mean look what they did in Boston. They're subhuman scum just like every other Muslim ape in the world. You guys have plenty of explosive devices and tanks. You could mow over the Tsarnaev towelheads like there's no tomorrow and nothing of value would be lost.

I'm female and I'd love to go there, take up arms against them. I heard that the Chechens are even joining the fight in Ukraine because of the whole friend-of-my-enemy thing. There's a large WN contingent there AFAIK and I really do feel I'd be right at home.

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[–] Skeleton_Hunter 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Russia won't let you immigrate there unless you are ethnically Russian. As an American even with a Russian wife and children its hard. Russian immigration policies are very strict.

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[–] Thinchick 17 points 43 points (+60|-17) ago 

Vote Trump

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 9 points 13 points (+22|-9) ago 

"On a humanitarian basis, something does have to be done," Mr Trump said.

"It's a serious problem. We haven't seen anything like it since the second world war, and it's getting worse and worse".

When asked whether he thought they should be allowed in the US, the business mogul said: "I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, with what's happening, you have to."

He added: "It's living in hell in Syria. They are living in hell."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34192834

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[–] sp00kygh0st 2 points 21 points (+23|-2) ago 

In his NH town hall he said he'd rather build a refugee camp for them in the middle east than let them in

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[–] Imapopulistnow 1 point 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Many of Trump's policies are balanced and reasonable. But then there is Trump...

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[–] Tangent-love 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

Americas Trump Card

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[–] JackBadass 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

I guess if you want to waste a vote, but you're not lazy enough to just not vote, then sure, vote Trump.

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[–] DaBeetus 19 points 19 points (+38|-19) ago 

you could stop listening to media propaganda, as a starting point.

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[–] slampisko 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

I think OP already did.

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[–] pray_the_gay_away 6 points 16 points (+22|-6) ago 

We need to spread the word that Muhammad is a pedophile. We need to make sure America understands that Islam is the literal opposite of feminism.

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[–] 8_billion_eaters [S] 4 points 16 points (+20|-4) ago 

The God Damn feminists aren't saying a word against ISLAM. After all the bullshit we put up with ...with these feminists... after all these years... you would think they would at least stand up against ISLAM.

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[–] CatNamedJava 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

Who wasn't a pedophiles in the 7th century?

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[–] Pwning4Ever ago 

Except feminist loves muslims and want a government thought police if you say anything bad about them. Its so fucking ironic, I know.

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[–] jallab 9 points 16 points (+25|-9) ago 

Just do not victimize yourselves. You are not victims. They are not the devil. Be rational, cool, calm and collective - only use words and never go beyond it.

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[–] zondor 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

You could wear white robes and burn crosses on their lawns too.

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[–] ParadigmShift 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

There's not enough money in that. We are free-market capitalists and Jesus was a small business owner.

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[–] the_spectre 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

He sold wine at an incalculably high profit margin.

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[–] jallab 2 points 13 points (+15|-2) ago 

Speak. Do not be a silent majority. You must remember when Hitler was killing Jews nobody spoke up for fear of being hurt and chastised by the state. Now, it is not the state who will ostracise and chastise you - it will be your very own friends and family as well as media. Stay strong and do not be silent.

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[–] Selfarrested 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Wait what you realise that these aren't people coming with any intention of effecting your politics most of these people haven't ever had a say in governance these are people running from a war zone would your reaction be the same if this were Jews or Christians?

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[–] jallab 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Yes, they run away now, but when they get settled they will bear their roots, as history has shown time and again. Before continuing discussion here, which I very much wish to do, look at the history of the Copts, the Phonecian, the Arameans and, in general, Christianity or Zoroastrianism in relation to Islam in the middle east. Hint. It is not a beautiful history of people and coexistence, but that of slavery, cultural and societal destruction and also genocide. These are not people who you want in your country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg.

yes, he is Jewish, but he uses facts and figures. Just pre-empting a (hopefully not) ignorant denial of facts based upon "JEWS!".

They treat women as second class citizens. They treat racial and religious minorities as second class citizens. They have horrendously non-compatible morals and laws. You may argue that the "westernised and moderate" ones do not; but the data, and my own anecdotal experience says otherwise. PM if you wish to hear any of my stories,

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[–] Obviousbond 16 points 9 points (+25|-16) ago 

that's what they said about the irish,.and the chinese,........aand the japanese,.........aaand the italians, etc,etc,etc the list goes on. it's always us against them until they become us and they become we and we don't want their kind.......give a mouse a cookie or give a pilgrim corn, potatoes and tomatoes........

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[–] EdSnowden 4 points 22 points (+26|-4) ago 

None of those people believe they have a holy duty to murder people from different religions.

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[–] ParadigmShift 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

There is always another excuse that someone uses to justify his or her bullshit.

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[–] EdSnowden 3 points 1 point (+4|-3) ago 

Yes, except that this is 2015, we've progressed a bit beyond religious wars.

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[–] Obviousbond 15 points 1 point (+16|-15) ago 

you mean like the spanish conquestadors?

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[–] Selfarrested 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

Um actually nearly every religion has done that.

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[–] 8_billion_eaters [S] 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

Muslims don't assimilate. Wait. Sometimes they do.

The stewardess told her company that she had become a devout Muslim, therefore she could no longer serve alcohol to passengers. (lawsuit)

The Muslims that run the local convenience store are devout muslims, BUT they have no problem stocking cases of beer and wine for sale. (profits)

Fuck this. Do you think you are being played for a fool? Well... letting 100,000 muslims into America is playing you for a fool.

I don't want 100,000 more of these people in our country. We have enough problems with our freed inner cities. We can't solve the problems of the world by bringing in 100,000 more. Let the rest of the world solve their own problems where they live.

Don't "FEED THE STARVING CHILDREN" If you feed the starving children...they will grow up and have more STARVING CHILDREN in 10 years.

Are you fucking stupid?

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[–] Selfarrested 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

those are two different groups of people Islam like christianity is not one denomination their are multiple and people within them will follow them to whatever strictness they personally feel comfortable with. Also it's your fucking country that caused all the shit that eventually led to them needing to leave their country. I recomend you read the Wikileaks Files and get a better understanding of the situation you're being played for a fool.

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[–] Number1dududuNumber1 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

The difference being that those nationalities you mentioned don't live by a religious text that commands them to kill anyone who does not subscribe to their system of beliefs. They also do not partake in the regular rape of young boys and women of any age. They are not the most likely group/religion to be terrorists.

Muslims are all of the above.

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[–] usernameistaken 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

honestly, there are plenty of Muslims living in the USA, how many cases of rape do you hear?

On the other hand, there were plenty of cases of Catholic priests/Parents/Elders molesting kids in the US. Would you consider it fair to say Christianity/US breeds child molesters?

No, the problem is with generalizing. Just because you hear a case hear and there does not mean everyone is the same. Muslims have been living in western countries for a long time in peace. What makes you fear them now?

On the other hand, the reason most Middle-easterners are in the current situation is because of our meddling. How would you feel when you hear from kids of middle-east that all Americans are blood thirsty and kill innocent people and are terrorists (look from their perspective)? We are looking at middle east through our eyes and ears from what is displayed and said to us through the media. But, the same is experienced by middle-easterns on a daily basis and yet they are somehow the terrorists. what did Syrians ever do to you?

The only problem US ever had was because of Saudis. Yet, no one has a problem with them and their regime. Start analyzing, just don't take everything you hear.

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[–] LOLATU ago 

So are Catholics.

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[–] jollycynic 4 points 3 points (+7|-4) ago 

The difference is that when we let people in in the past it was a hardcore expectation that they'd integrate and become American. The current Islamic invasion of the west is being launched with the full and deliberate intent to subvert and replace the host cultures. They don't want to become us. They want to turn the west into the very nations they left behind.

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[–] TiagoTiago ago 

Is that really happening? And everywhere?

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