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[–] acratus 9 points -8 points (+1|-9) ago  (edited ago)

This is a cliche response to the factual statement, and it's actually bullshit. If you're going to go with the assumption that there are no deities until proven otherwise and that there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure. In other words: You, and everyone you know, will experience much more suffering and hardship in the remainder of your lives than you will experience pleasure. Your children, and your children's children, will continue the cycle of suffering. Therefore, the only logical choice to make is to kill yourself to spare future generations suffering.

Atheism is sanctimonious, bitter, catty NIHILISM, and does absolutely no good to anyone besides providing an unearned superiority complex.

Edit: for those who don't know what I mean about the pain/pleasure spectrum and are just getting butthurt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

If you're going to go with the assumption that there are no deities until proven otherwise and that there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure

Why do you need a reward for living a virtuous life? I try my best to live a virtuous life because it's important to me. I don't really understand why you need religion or a god for that.

You, and everyone you know, will experience much more suffering and hardship in the remainder of your lives than you will experience pleasure.

I don't believe that for a second.

Atheism is sanctimonious, bitter, catty NIHILISM

It's literally none of those things, although some atheists can be like that, just like anybody else.

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[–] acratus 5 points -5 points (+0|-5) ago 

Why do you need a reward for living a virtuous life?

Because why bother otherwise? Virtue is not its own reward.

I try my best to live a virtuous life because it's important to me. I don't really understand why you need religion or a god for that.

And why is it important to you? Because it is?

I don't believe that for a second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnVY2zpVTNg

It's literally none of those things, although some atheists can be like that, just like anybody else.

A superiority complex is Atheism's defining trait. Nobody would be an Atheist if you didn't get that rush of dopamine from looking down on those who are religious. If you were honest with yourself and ceded to the fact that you truly didn't know what the afterlife and existence hold for you, you would be an agnostic, a much more respectable position.

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[–] DickHertz 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That's some serious nonsense that starts that idea that there needs to be a point to life. True to form you then go out and define what it is and what's left for those who don't share your primitive belief system. That's the cancer of holding an irrational belief. You believe you can use it as a starting point and arrive at other facts using logic after accepting it as a premise.

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[–] acratus 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

True to form you then go out and define what it is and what's left for those who don't share your primitive belief system.

If you're trying to prove my point about Atheism being a superiority complex, you're doing a very good job.

That's the cancer of holding an irrational belief.

Irrational to you, someone who can't articulate why he feels the need to continue living life.

You believe you can use it as a starting point and arrive at other facts using logic after accepting it as a premise.

Yes. That's what happens when you choose to make your life about something.

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[–] X____sign_here____ 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure.

Dude. Life is the reward. You are currently living it.

The entire point to living is to take advantage of the only thing you really have - life. You can choose to make it as fantastic and long or miserable and short as you like.

To make claims there is something after this life belittles what life you have.

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[–] acratus 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago 

Cut the hippie bullshit. You are nothing but a set of evolved biological responses. You choose what ends those serve: yourself, or some idea of a higher power or the advancement of your soul. "I live life because life is the reward" is circular logic.

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[–] Alopix 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure.

If you really believe that then you have to be devoid of things like empathy, conscience and emotion. I'm so sorry for you, that the only thing that makes life worth living for you is religion. But please understand that that is NOT normal, and other people experience the world VERY differently.

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[–] acratus 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

Don't taking that condescending tone with me. What do you think those emotions serve? What is their purpose? These are what we often refer to pejoratively as "feels." They serve no end in themselves except to encourage social and discourage anti-social behavior. You answer their call because they feel good.