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[–] FreshieD 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

To believe there is no god is just as much of an assumption as believing there is one.

This is an oft-repeated statement by the credulous, and it's bullshit. There is simply zero evidence of deities. Not believing in the existence of something for which there is no evidence is not anywhere near as much of an assumption as believing in something for which there is no evidence. Could there be deity? Sure, and there could be dragons, unicorns, and Romulans using cloaking devices; difference is no one questions a lack of belief in those things.

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[–] acratus 9 points -8 points (+1|-9) ago  (edited ago)

This is a cliche response to the factual statement, and it's actually bullshit. If you're going to go with the assumption that there are no deities until proven otherwise and that there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure. In other words: You, and everyone you know, will experience much more suffering and hardship in the remainder of your lives than you will experience pleasure. Your children, and your children's children, will continue the cycle of suffering. Therefore, the only logical choice to make is to kill yourself to spare future generations suffering.

Atheism is sanctimonious, bitter, catty NIHILISM, and does absolutely no good to anyone besides providing an unearned superiority complex.

Edit: for those who don't know what I mean about the pain/pleasure spectrum and are just getting butthurt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilitarianism

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

If you're going to go with the assumption that there are no deities until proven otherwise and that there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure

Why do you need a reward for living a virtuous life? I try my best to live a virtuous life because it's important to me. I don't really understand why you need religion or a god for that.

You, and everyone you know, will experience much more suffering and hardship in the remainder of your lives than you will experience pleasure.

I don't believe that for a second.

Atheism is sanctimonious, bitter, catty NIHILISM

It's literally none of those things, although some atheists can be like that, just like anybody else.

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[–] DickHertz 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That's some serious nonsense that starts that idea that there needs to be a point to life. True to form you then go out and define what it is and what's left for those who don't share your primitive belief system. That's the cancer of holding an irrational belief. You believe you can use it as a starting point and arrive at other facts using logic after accepting it as a premise.

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[–] X____sign_here____ 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

there is no divine reward for living a virtuous life, the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure.

Dude. Life is the reward. You are currently living it.

The entire point to living is to take advantage of the only thing you really have - life. You can choose to make it as fantastic and long or miserable and short as you like.

To make claims there is something after this life belittles what life you have.

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[–] Alopix 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

the only point to living is the reduction of pain and the advancement of pleasure.

If you really believe that then you have to be devoid of things like empathy, conscience and emotion. I'm so sorry for you, that the only thing that makes life worth living for you is religion. But please understand that that is NOT normal, and other people experience the world VERY differently.