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[–] One_Wing_Angel 5 points 56 points (+61|-5) ago  (edited ago)

Christians are being systematically eliminated over there. They can't even stay in the UN refugee camps, because the Islamicists attack and drive them out. So why shouldn't we rescue them?

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[–] Uranus_Hertz 2 points 10 points (+12|-2) ago 

Just lovely. This makes a good post to make a point for me elsewhere, thank you very much.

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[–] 2531224 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago 

I too am stealing this to post on Reddit.

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

So why shouldn't we rescue them?

Am I missing something? Who is arguing that we shouldn't accept Christian refugees?

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[–] 2531248 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I have asked this before and never got an answer. What is the difference among the groups: Islamists, Islamicists, and Muslims?

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[–] Csalbertcs 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree, we should rescue them. But at the same time that is their home and their history. We have to ensure that the people who protect them (Syrian regime, Kurds, Lebanon government, many other groups) have victory over Islamist ideologies (Wahhabism) and rebel groups. We want them to live in their home as they did under secular leaders, before the war.

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[–] DickHertz 11 points 31 points (+42|-11) ago 

We should raise the bar and only take in Atheists.

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[–] Ilikebordercollies [S] 11 points 8 points (+19|-11) ago 

wut? Only people that think for themselves? Why would we want to do that?

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[–] Aaaron 7 points 12 points (+19|-7) ago 

It doesn't have anything to do with thinking for themselves, it's just not believing that there's a god. There's not much more to it than that, and it's dangerous to assume anything specific about somebody based on their religion (or lack thereof) alone.

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[–] neuron 11 points 4 points (+15|-11) ago 

To believe there is no god is just as much of an assumption as believing there is one. As far as I'm aware, there isn't any evidence that there is no god, only that parts of the many established religions are not true. There could very well be a god and we just don't have the information and perspective to understand what it is. I doubt it's some bearded dude in a cloud, though.

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[–] New_years_day 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Fuck yes, One day people will realize that religion as a whole needs to go.

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[–] CatNamedJava 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Or even farther and only nihilists

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[–] Roy360 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No need to go that far.

Just don't practice your religion in a way that bothers anyone.

I absolutely believe in God, I just can't find a religion that fits my belief (besides a small small part of Hindiusm)

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[–] DickHertz 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Lol if you're practice religion you're sure to bother someone. Typically it will be someone else who doesn't practice your brand. Hell they might even start a war over it.

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[–] Twisterz 2 points 18 points (+20|-2) ago 

Wow props to Salon for just reporting the facts and not putting any spin on what he said. This is a very difficult issue, its hard for me to not waver on what to do. Regardless we should help the minority groups such as Christians before helping the Muslims, as they are in the most danger.

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[–] subjugate 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If that's the case you should be crying about the druze. They are also being killed by isis and have a smaller population than christians.

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[–] Twisterz 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Sure, I said minority groups because I'm not entirely sure how many there are in the region. My point was these groups need help first because they are in more immediate danger.

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[–] throwaway56789 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Aren't those the ones who believe the world was created by a peacock?

Hm, maybe that's why everything is so fucked up. Humanity is living in an NBC sitcom.

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[–] sp00kygh0st 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

Would these muslim countries house christians if the tables were turned?

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[–] spookybm 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

No. It is against their belief. If they would not marry their children to non-islamists what makes you think they will be xenious to them too?

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[–] 2531290 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Sure, as long as they convert.

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[–] gosso920 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Or pay the jizya.

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[–] Guerilla 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't think so. On the other hand I don't see those Muslim countries bombing the shit out of USA or Europe or funding Christian terrorists and installing dictatorships resulting in those refugees either.

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[–] throwaway56789 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's only because we've been pacifying them for years with oil dollars and foreign aid.

Wait until Iran gets the bomb. The solar system will be down to 7.5 planets. (I say .5 because I don't really know where Pluto stands at this point.)

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Sane people aren't all right with their nation being turned into Islamic colonies just because you saw a sad (staged) picture in the news.

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[–] throwaway56789 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not me. My first assertion was that Dzhokhar and Tamerlan were once cute little refugee boys fleeing persecution in their homelands. The only 6-year-old we should be remembering is the Bruins fan from Dorchester, Martin Richard, those sweet little refugee angels killed.

Aylan isn't Elian Gonzalez either. Elian would have been raised by family members who were anti-Castro and pro-America. Aylan, though the name is similar (hm, sounds like the propagandists are recycling their cast of characters), would have been raised by his own family, who subscribe to a medieval cult of blood sacrifice that believes the words of the Arab version of Charles Manson to be 100% true.

Supposedly, a 6-year-old girl also drowned recently off the coast of Greece. No picture of her, though. If "the children" are so important, why should we give a shit about Aylan and not about the other girl? Because giving a shit about the girl would be offensive to the woman-haters club these cavemen belong to?

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[–] Drenki 5 points -2 points (+3|-5) ago 

Their needs, from a humanitarian perspective, are to return to their countries and sort out the problems there. Can you imagine people from the U.S. fleeing their country because of an influx of people? Not bloody likely.

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[–] dv1155 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

The crux of the issue that the left ignores is that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with freedom. There's a reason no free nation on earth is majority muslim and in every muslim nation people are oppressed. Sharia law is incompatible with our constitution. Letting muslims into our nation is digging the grave of our liberties and rights.

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[–] pacman2000 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I don't think religion should be a factor we consider when someone is applying for refugee status. In this nation you have freedom of religion and that includes freedom from being involved in religion. What religion a person is should have no legal standing. It shouldn't even be a line on the application. Any consideration for refugee status based on religion is an endorsement of a particular religion and I would oppose it. All religions are generally bad, no reason to make it worse by endorsing one magical non-existent sky daddy over another.

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Damn good idea to save the Christians from being beheaded by ISIS.

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