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[–] ShampocalypseWOW 11 points 34 points (+45|-11) ago 

Basically he's saying he thinks drone should be used in an extremely limited way that does not hurt civilians. I see nothing wrong with that. If they have a fix on a terrorist and there's no collateral damage, why not take them out? If we had drones back in the 90's we probably could have taken out bin Laden then. Drones are also valuable for recon much more than they are for launching hellfire missiles.

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[–] iam [S] 7 points 26 points (+33|-7) ago  (edited ago)

Basically he's saying he thinks drone should be used in an extremely limited way that does not hurt civilians.

Just as Obama said, and look how many innocent civilians he killed. No president will openly call for the killing of innocent civilians (except for the two atomic bombs and subsequent firebombings which left some 300,000 innocent civilians dead in Japan). It is nearly impossible to use drones and not kill innocent civilians.

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[–] ZiMMy 1 points 23 points (+24|-1) ago  (edited ago)

It is nearly impossible to use drones and not kill innocent civilians.

It is nearly impossible to combat enemies when civillians are around and not to hurt any of them. Using any weaponry.

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[–] ShampocalypseWOW 10 points 5 points (+15|-10) ago 

Just as Obama said

When?

and look how many innocent civilians he killed

So anyone who says they're against using drones to kill civilians must actually be planning on doing the opposite??

No president will openly call for the killing of innocent civilians (except for the two atomic bombs and subsequent firebombings which left some 300,000 innocent civilians dead in Japan).

That's pretty naive, but if you think Sanders is like Obama or Clinton then you don't know shit about any of them.

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[–] Caboose_Calloway 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Who are your enemies?

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[–] PraiseIPU 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

If we had drones back in the 90's we probably could have taken out bin Laden then.

yeah, no. you are about 40 years off for how long UAV's have been used. Bin Laden was our friend in the 80's and 90's

The August 1964 clash in the Tonkin Gulf between naval units of the U.S. and North Vietnamese Navy initiated America's highly classified UAVs (Ryan Model 147, Ryan AQM-91 Firefly, Lockheed D-21) into their first combat missions of the Vietnam War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle#History

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Actually... the Germans used drones in WWII. They just weren't very good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath_tracked_mine

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[–] ShampocalypseWOW 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

yeah, no. you are about 40 years off for how long UAV's have been used.

Dumbass, drones have only been used to fire missiles at targets since 2001, when they started adapting the Predator to strike mock-ups of bin Laden's compound (BEFORE 9/11). And if you think he was our "friend" in the 90's then you're dumber than I can possibly imagine.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Atomics_MQ-1_Predator#Afghanistan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden#Formation_and_structuring_of_al-Qaeda

Maybe bone up on you recent history before typing, eh kid?

The August 1964 clash in the Tonkin Gulf between naval units of the U.S. and North Vietnamese Navy initiated America's highly classified UAVs (Ryan Model 147, Ryan AQM-91 Firefly, Lockheed D-21) into their first combat missions of the Vietnam War

As surveillance and spotters, not as armed strike aircraft. Fucking hell you're dumb.

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[–] ElectricBlankaHadou 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The downvoats on you are pretty hilarious. You make sense and they shit on you. They can't handle the Bern.

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[–] CommonSense 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Just like the NSA said they didn't collect data on citizens.

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[–] umpaloompa 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Logged in to say you this. Next step from drones would be robotic soldiers and tanks who can analyze war situations properly (drones on the ground). What makes you believe some mad man sociopath dictator won't use a button which makes him have an army of drones kill any dissidents?

Ofc I understand this will be modern warfare but we should be watchful to these sort of inventions.

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[–] Dresser 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

What makes you believe some mad man sociopath dictator doesn't already press a button that makes him have an army of mindless shoulders kill any dissidents

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[–] wonkifier 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

But when you have civilian casualties to balance as well, "safe for us" war still is still really problematic. (And could mean that we go into war more easily than we should, because "safe for us" war gets abbreviated to "safe" war)

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[–] Gracchi 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Until people that want to treat you like you are treating them get them. I think it's another small step down a scary path that warfare's been going. When lives aren't put at risk, it becomes a video game to not only the leaders but the people.

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[–] BrianFellow 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

That's why they are a bad thing.

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[–] jasenlee 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Like it or not drones are here to stay. It won't matter who is elected they are a key part of the airforces future. This is a technology change and you aren't going to stop that. What you can change is how they are used.

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[–] physicscat 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

The question is will he use them against U.S. citizens without due process as Obama has done? Will he have a "kill list?"

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[–] 84626433832795028841 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Every communist has a kill list.

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[–] dan_k 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Drones don't kill people, bad guys with drones kill people, wait I mean guns.. wait I mean knives, wait I mean power.

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[–] under_the_bridge 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The problem is the fact that drones create more terrorists than they kill.

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[–] BobbyLoblaw 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I guess black lives matter to Bernie but brown lives don't.

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[–] novictim 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Good job, Bernie. Drones are NOT the problem.

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