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[–] guy231 1 points 21 points (+22|-1) ago 

His supporters must know the things he says are not consistent or factually accurate, but they never think "he's lying to me." It's kind of interesting. Maybe they just forgive him because they assume everyone else is also lying, just less blatantly.

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[–] Chew_Monster 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago  (edited ago)

As a Trump supporter, I can confirm.

I am 100% convinced they are all liars, crooks, thieves. Regardless of their initial intentions when running; everyone has a price. If I had to nail it down, I feel a man who has already amassed much wealth would be less likely to be swayed. Or it could be worse. Time will tell.

That and I love his "fuck you, fuck them, this is my program. You don't like it; piss off!"

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[–] sharkiness 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

You say that as if all the other candidates aren't lying. Hint: they are.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Which things in particular? You should realize that you should provide some examples, especially in a thread like this :)

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[–] joethebob 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

Also, I am frightened his hair may jump into the crowd and savage someone at any time.

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[–] Hand-Banana 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Can I vote for just the hair?

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[–] zephroth 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Im afraid that if he gets shot his hair will then become animate and take over the presidency.

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[–] President-Sanders 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

He's a moron but I want him to win because I really think the US will just be a happier go luckier place for eight years.

That guy can say the dumbest shit and get away with it, I have a feeling this magic toupe of luck with extend to the economy.

I've always thought he was a dog shit, but him winning would be the funniest of outcomes, so that's my vote.

Vote LOL.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You are saying a person who is clearly much more successful than you, a much better public speaker, with a much prettier wife is a moron? I am saying, don't underestimate him intellectually and mistake his bluster for idiocy. I, for one, would not buy a used car from him or bet against him.

Disclosure: I also for the longest time thought he was all talk, but I think back in the day we just didn't have that many media options to get unfiltered coverage of candidates.

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[–] assholepuke 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

He's the lesser of all the alternative evils. Sure, he would spit in our faces and probably will loot the nation of a trillion dollars. But that is still significantly better and cheaper than what Hillary and Jeb would do to us.

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[–] acratus 10 points 61 points (+71|-10) ago  (edited ago)

Let me break it down for you:

70% - Fuck Trump, he's stupid. Sanders all the way.

20% - I like Sanders, but Trump has some points I agree with.

7% - Fuck Trump and Sanders, all politicians are liars

3% - Fuck Trump and Sanders, I like someone else

0% Clinton 2016!

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[–] PassingShip 1 points 26 points (+27|-1) ago 

Why doesn't anyone support Hillary?

God that gif is the gift that keeps on giving.

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[–] Murphdog 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The gif that keeps on giving

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[–] One_Wing_Angel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It looks like she's already wearing a prison jumpsuit.

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[–] lissencarak 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It doesn't matter. After some media brainwashing you will all be voting for her anyways. It just takes a few weeks of positive media coverage, and she got that in the bag. All she needs to do to win is take it easy and not die from a second stroke before the election.

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[–] RedditDead2005-2015 2 points 11 points (+13|-2) ago 

For me, it's vote for a Christian Zionist (every GOP candidate and Hillary) or a Zionist Jew (Bernie) - pick one. Either way, we're going to war with Iran in 2017 for Israel.

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[–] Gigan 1 points 17 points (+18|-1) ago 

But Sanders has opposed every intervention in the middle east...

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[–] lissencarak 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Israel is our greadest ally. :DDDDDD

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[–] plumpton 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Bernie a Zionist? Where do see evidence for this?

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[–] Grunge 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

ya but the people who actually go out and vote are the old baby boomers who only get their news from fox or cnn. Half of them will vote Hilary and the other half will vote for the republican candidate, like the way the wealthy want them to vote. It's up to us to get out there and start voting! Too many people wait until their freaking 50's to start voting.

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[–] Taka 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

No love for DEEZ NUTZ?

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[–] Wumbology_Major 7 points 29 points (+36|-7) ago 

No because he doesn't talk about anything other than immigration, political correctness, and how he was once a great businessman.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 16 points 28 points (+44|-16) ago 

He only talks about some of the biggest issues of our time, how horrible! He should just promise a bunch of free shit and throw in a "tax the rich" every so often instead!

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[–] Moderately_soluble 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago 

Exactly. We need to be back on our feet before we worry about feelings.

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[–] Lootaluck 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

Biggest issues to the republican base.

It's called marketing, and Trumps very good at it.

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[–] Pawn 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

that free shit line is the idiots view of socialism. THen they vote republican and wonder why the country is still shit.

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[–] blizzardman 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

so he talks about things that are the biggest issue of our time. What will he do just build a wall and get all of the oil from Iraq. People like him are the problem with America not the solution.

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[–] guy231 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

he talks about corruption and money in politics.

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[–] Einmensch 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

He is the corruption and money in politics.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He has talked about several issues. To for specific policies, he wants to eliminate common core, bring jobs back to America by raising tariffs on foreign goods, and either have countries like South Korea and Germany pay for our military support or stop funding their defense. He also supports universal healthcare(although thinks Obamacare is a bad implementation).

The issues you listed are just the ones the media has focused on the most.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood 24 points 26 points (+50|-24) ago 

Most people on here support that socialist nutjob Bernie Sanders.

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[–] Calibas 4 points 45 points (+49|-4) ago 

I hear a lot of criticism of Sanders here, but it's almost entirely just empty insults. What has he actually done that merits all the hate he gets?

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[–] zippo 9 points 11 points (+20|-9) ago 

That's an excellent point. What has he actually done, in his 35 years as a professional politician?

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[–] Ender1337 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

What has he actually done that merits all the love he gets?

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[–] acratus 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Some of us like America and don't want it turned into Denmark. Specifically, the things that Sanders hates, like free markets and military power, are the exact things that allow America to lead the world.

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[–] nokilli 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

His stance on Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is very disturbing. It's cookie-cutter zionist claptrap.

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[–] edistojim 5 points 7 points (+12|-5) ago 

The tide looks as if it might be turning. Even some liberals don't like socialism.

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[–] Lootaluck 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Yeah I don't want the government to own the means of production.

As the right defines it, social welfare programs, market regulations, public education are all socialism.

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[–] Sargon16 3 points 4 points (+7|-3) ago 

'We've all become so accustomed to stage-managed focus driven candidates that authenticity comes across as lunacy.' - Jon Stewart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnaqrepHrtc

Although I will concede that quoting Jon Stewart isn't likely to swap someone of your views.

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[–] weezkitty 3 points 2 points (+5|-3) ago 

And what exactly is wrong with socialism? Other than the propaganda that you may have heard

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[–] 1980444? 4 points 25 points (+29|-4) ago 

I support him only to the extent that I want him to be the Republican nominee, and hope he picks Sarah Palin as his running mate.

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[–] Dont-Tread-On-Me 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Be careful what you wish for. What if clinton somehow gets the nomination, do you really think she can defeat Trump???

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[–] zephroth 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

she wont make it now with this email garbage floating around. however a sanders trump debate does need to happen.

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[–] MrMongoose 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes. She's nothing if not a ruthless politician, and Trump's appeal is exclusively on the right side of the spectrum.

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[–] 1983532? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hillary might be the only Democrat that Trump could beat, or maybe Biden.

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[–] Lootaluck 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Oh god the lulz

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[–] President-Sanders 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

epic lulz 2016

the writers of house of cards had better have some insane drafts that can reference this possibility.

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[–] joethebob 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Trump was pandering to her earlier in the year, but nobody is stupid enough to put her on a ticket again.

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[–] NotAnUndercoverCop 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

For the lulz?

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[–] nomenimion 6 points 12 points (+18|-6) ago  (edited ago)

I don't, because I don't like his policies, and I think putting an ego as massive as his at the head of a potential police state is incredibly dangerous. If we're not careful, we could end up with a dictator.

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[–] squiremarcus 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

well it would never happen in america but historically every populist nation in south america became a dictatorship

i think 2 didnt? columbia and mexico

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[–] fizzy88 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

If we're not careful, we could end up with a dictator.

You know how we have those three branches of government that would prevent exactly this from ever becoming possible? Our political system has proven extremely effective at preventing anything significant from happening.

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[–] President-Sanders 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I don't think he'd be like that. He's a delegator. We'd have a great delegator.

He'd be like this:

We pushed through the deal, and as a little sweetener I've given myself 5% of the Isreali arms deal, hey, I deserve it ok? Also, what do you say we add some pizazz to the whitehouse eh? A grotto would look good on the lawn, near my help pad but not too near, I need a wet bar there too, and some tasteful plastic pink flamingos.

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[–] Lootaluck 4 points 7 points (+11|-4) ago 

I love Trump LOVE him!

He's a progressive and a populist, any libertarian who thinks otherwise is suffering cognitive dissonance.

Welcome to the team boys!

But I'd vote for the better progressive Sanders

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

Not being an anarcho-capitalist != progressive

True conservatives are nationalists.

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[–] Lootaluck 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Trumps more than a nationalist.

He's vowed to preserve social security

He plans to vastly invest in infrastructure, including a very costly border wall.

Oh and tarriffs will pay for that wall

He's proposing limiting H1b visas to further restrict the "free market"

But most importantly trumps not saying "government is the problem" he's saying the idiots running the government are the problem.

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[–] lissencarak 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

People need to point this out more often.

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[–] atw 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Mussolini and Stalin were both anti-capitalist (as were the Nazis), and both were "revolutionaries" against liberal democratic capitalism, so had a fair bit in common.

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[–] fizzy88 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Trump actually agrees closely with Sanders with regard to trade policies. They are both against all of these free trade agreements that have helped to move American businesses and jobs overseas. Sanders has voted against every single free trade agreement and strongly opposes the TPP. And Trump... well I guess if he is elected, we'll see if he keeps his word.

And they both oppose illegal immigrants because of their effect on American workers. They are a source of cheap labor that brings wages down. However, while Sanders wants to provide an easier path to citizenship and bring these people "out of the shadows," Trump just wants to kick them all out. So here is agreement on the problem, but a difference on how to solve it.

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[–] Sir-Real 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Don't look at the party that they're running for, they're basically running on the same idea; Use the existing two party system as a platform to stand on. Think of it this way: If Trump wins the Republican nominee, he's basically running as an Independent with no Republican to oppose him in the general election. Same goes for Sanders in regards to winning the Democratic nominee. They're trying to beat their biggest competition in the primaries rather than face them in the general election.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He is a both progressive and conservative on different issues.

For instance, he also wants to heavily cut the Department of Education, reduce regulations on businesses(and health insurance companies in particular) and has no desire to increase the minimum wage.

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[–] johnlocke90 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I only hope he picks someone to run with him who is more moderate

I would note that, in many areas Trump is pretty damn moderate. He supports universal healthcare(but hates Obamacare) and Social Security. He also wants to invest in infrastructure("I know how to build").

In fact, I expect his running mate to be a more consistently conservative Republican politician, who just doesn't have too much stink on him. Senator Sessions(who advised him on his immigration policy), for instance.

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