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[–] fusir 1 point 17 points (+18|-1) ago  (edited ago)

To defend the union you have to be willing to walk away from it. That was the main message from Trump's Art of The Deal. Leverage is walking away power. If you aren't willing to walk away you can impact nothing.

If they don't like us walking away, that's fine, if not good. How much do they not like it? Do they not like it so much that they would prefer the option of, IDK, investigating obvious crimes they should be investigating anyway?

Everyone says, oh no, we can't do that, it would piss off our enemies too much. Until you see pissing off your enemies as at least a small positive you will have no trajectory in life but to be propelled wherever your enemies want to take you.

Would secession freak people out? Yes. Then let's do it. That's the whole fucking point.

[–] MrBateman 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I dunno why people don't fucking get this. We should be talking about seceding and forming our own government right now, regardless of how the shits in the current gov's play out. Current govs aren't going to do shit unless YOU can show you could and ARE forming your own.

[–] ClaytonBigsby313 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

To have peace you must make ready for war.

[–] Intrixina ago 

This happens in all aspects of life - enough leverage makes you happier and it means you don't get fuckwits pushing you around.

[–] NukeRedditFromOrbit ago 

Well said. On all accounts.