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[–] Greezelet 5 points 58 points (+63|-5) ago 

I love how candidates on both sides refuse to acknowledge Burnie Sanders. Biden's not even in the race.

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[–] rockpyle 1 point 43 points (+44|-1) ago 

Trump acknowledged Bernie Sanders the other day when he called him weak for allowing a couple of hags to hijack his microphone.

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[–] Duke_of_Doombots 6 points 30 points (+36|-6) ago 

I like how Trump perceives how Bernie reacted as weakness and I think it exemplifies the difference between them. Trump definitely likes to be the center of attention and is aggressive enough and vocal enough to stay that way. Bernie's platform isn't really about him so much as it's about ideas and people, not to mention he also seems polite, respectful and non-confrontational. Across both candidates, all of these qualities are good, but if they were combined in one person, they would be great.

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[–] Fitblue 4 points 14 points (+18|-4) ago 

Bernie let those people walk all over him. I lost all respect for him at that moment. Way too weak.

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[–] RedLeader 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago 

I think both sides fear Bernie when even BLM SJWs try to shut his rallies down.

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[–] RamenJunkie 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah no shit.

CBS this morning had a story that was "Buzzfeed is suggesting Al Gore may be the new front runner and people are looking at what it would take to get him going, Al Gore said he is not running"

AL GORE

Who said he wasn't interested.

Its just depressing as fuck how obvious the media control is and how they are trying to stifle Sanders.

Sanders' folks need to push the idea of "Write in Canisate".

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[–] A_Fringe_Element 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The man won't even stand up to a couple of room-temperature IQ whales hijacking his own event. The public won't trust him in charge of national defense. If Hillary doesn't make it a dark horse candidate will appear.

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[–] Greezelet ago 

Not getting into a screaming match with a couple shrieking lunatics on a public stage was a tactical choice not weakness. Not every confrontation needs to be attacked head on. He wasn't there to assert his dominance over a couple nutters and opted not to share the stage with them. Good for him and he was able to speak to a packed crowd later that day. If anyone is at fault here it was the event organizer. I want to see the man speak about what he could do to change the way our government works. Not watch him wrestle some crazy lady to the ground and take her weave as a trophy and proof of his strength. Do you want a president or an all star wrestler?

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[–] yewbontheboat 4 points 42 points (+46|-4) ago 

I fucking hate Trump but I would vote for him over Biden.

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[–] yewbontheboat 13 points 34 points (+47|-13) ago 

Yeah, I would vote for Bernie though.

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[–] brucethemoose 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I would vote for a goat over Hillary.

EDIT: That isn't the best analogy, as I would vote for a goat over a lot of politicians... The point is, I would vote for any other sentient being alive on Earth over Hillary. If you can think of a counter-example that's worse than Hillary, I'm all ears.

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[–] RamenJunkie 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah. I hate Trump and everything Republican in general but I would vote for him over Hillary and Biden.

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[–] nomenimion 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

'President Biden' is a truly obscene thought.

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[–] Alexwo1 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I thought trump was a joke until I started paying attention.

I thought economy is number one issue. I give that to Trump

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[–] the_spectre 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I dunno. Crazy Joe vs Trump.

American politics has become another shitshow. Crappy entertainment.

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[–] sostoney 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] RJKH 9 points 21 points (+30|-9) ago 

This election cycle is the fucking worst.

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[–] Psycs 2 points 20 points (+22|-2) ago 

As a non-U.S. citizen, the carnage is mesmerizing to witness.

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[–] lasercow 8 points 1 point (+9|-8) ago  (edited ago)

watch the supreme court. there is a case that challenges the current system where census population is used to calculate representation in congressional districts and thus the electoral college...the challenge asserts that it should count only ELIGIBLE VOTERS. This would exclude the youth, felons (in some states) and immigrants who are not eligible to vote regardless of whether they are in the US with legal documentation.

this would compound the problems of undercounting of urban, minority, and disenfranchized, as well as eliminating entire populations.

This would reverse the steady and fast shift of power towards populated urban states and states with growing latino and minority populations back towards the traditional dominance of white rural and suburban voters in smaller states.

I believe this case will determine the next decade or two of american election outcomes and probably global policy of all stripes as a result.

Unless this disastrous case upends the current system, the dramatic demographic changes happening in the US are going to turn several key red states purple and blue. Virginia, and North Carolina, are solidly purple as of 2012 which was a tough election....4 years has only accelerated the changes. South Carolina, and Georgia, are one step away from a solid purple designation in presidential elections as well. Florida if already purple and at risk of going solid blue as the cuban community fragments politically and other Latino communities grow. TEXAS is turning purple. There are so many latinos in Texas that it is not going to be a reliable republlican state in the near future.

by call accounts latinos are being DRIVEN from the republican party by the high heat of their anti immigrant rhetoric and the polarized stance of the republican base.

Unless this trend is stopped by the supreme court, the real fights in the next decades will be over the democratic party and its agenda. republicans hold sway in congress and have electoral advantages there, but if they cant win the presidency they will suffer and splinter and reform, while those of us who want to stop the United States' slide towards authoritarianism and restore basic freedoms and respect for the constitution have a chance at winning the presidency through a democratic candidate.

I think we can fight and win against corporate america, the military industrial complex, and the intelligence community if we are fighting within the democratic party and the prize is the right person getting the nomination. And from where I am standing, unless the supreme court fucks it up, winning the Democratic nomination is almost the same as winning the election....at least until the republicans work all this hatred out of their systems a bit and rewrite their platform and history again.

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[–] Rummel 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

2012 was worse. Every single republican was an establishment tool in 2012, besides Paul, but he was too old to be president at that time in my opinion anyway.

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[–] Echo_of_Savages 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Idk about the age argument.... Ron Paul is still alive and kicking. Hell, Mccain is still alive and kicking and everyone thought he would for sure die in the last 10 years

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[–] Aaaron 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yeah the republican nominees were pretty hilarious in 2012. Santorum, Gingrich... it was a circus of assholes for sure.

That's what's always blown my mind about the GOP. If they had a more middle of the road republican in the primaries he would have the election for sure, but they keep coming up with these super, ultra right wingers that are so far out of touch with the general population it's ridiculous.

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[–] master_voater 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

It's the best since carter v reagen! Never have I seen so many people of all ages interested in politics, something that means something, rather than apathy. It might not change the way I want it to but times are a changin, exciting!

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[–] Echo_of_Savages 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Or the best, depending on how you look at it

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

hahahaha I love it.

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[–] apiratewithadd 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

that is a perfect dichotomy of the two

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[–] Drenki 1 point 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

This will be comedy gold. Trump is known for being... let's call it outspoken, while Biden is known as some kind of next-gen gaffe machine.

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[–] Rummel 1 point 10 points (+11|-1) ago 

Biden just reeks of 'creepy uncle'.

I don't think he'll get very far.

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[–] Drenki 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I think you underestimate his charisma. Now Sanders. Every time I see him I wonder why the fuck people think he could get elected.

(Yes, I know you shouldn't judge candidates in this way, but people do. I'm just noting that.)

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[–] Aldo 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

I think he's more of the kind of crazy Uncle that will pick you up from the bar if you're hammered but can also be a bit of a goofball and a klutz.

Trump is more of an opinionated loud mouthed radio/talk show host and his entrance into the "serious contender" category just makes the entire American political system look like a talent show of crazy.

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[–] SolarBaby 4 points 13 points (+17|-4) ago 

I wish it was the murder scandal she was getting noticed for. The nerve of that killer's sense of entitlement.

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[–] BoiseNTheHood [S] 5 points 32 points (+37|-5) ago 

Shillary going down in flames for the email scandal is like when Capone got nailed for tax evasion.

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[–] SolarBaby 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

That's a perfect analogy.

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[–] Alexwo1 ago 

what murder scandal?

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[–] BraneS2 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

google "gwb43.com".

Bush was under investigation while President, and 5 million emails (though some say 22 million) disappeared from his private server (actually the RNC server) when he was required to use the whitehouse.gov server. The IT guy (working for Karl Rove) had all the answers and died in a plane crash just before he was to testify.

THAT scandal??

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[–] flimflamedthezimzam 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

lol, jail is for poor people and "enemies of the state".

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[–] JoshuaZ ago 

What probability do you estimate that Gore will run? That he'll get the nomination?

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[–] umyeahnope 1 point 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Forget Biden. I want to see some Sanders/Trump debates. Two dudes that shoot from the hip and have already upset the establishment, now that would be fun and informing to see.

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[–] scombinator 1 point 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

Trump doesn't really shoot from the hip, he just doesn't think before he speaks. So he's a perfect match for biden.

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[–] farmer- 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

thats what "shooting from the hip" means. he doesn't "aim" (read: "think"). just draws and shoots.

and, by that, I disagree with the comment from @umyeahnope: i dont think Bernie shoots from the hip at all. he's been saying the same things for years, as far as I'm aware

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[–] Subway_Bernie_Goetz 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I think he does think before he speaks. He isn't accidentally offending people by saying politically incorrect things. His insensitivity is a feature, not a bug.

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