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[–] logicow 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

The Liberal party in Canada isn't left-wing, it's in the center vaguely leaning left or right depending on issues.

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[–] Moolk 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

No kidding. Most of our parties are actually rather centerist compared to the rest of the world.

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[–] Reddiggoat [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And we're all leftist compared to Hitler and rightist compared to Stalin. IDC how stupidly to the left or right other countries' governments are, we still have 2 lefts and a right.

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[–] conundrumbombs 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Politics here suck complete ass.

It's a circus sideshow, and serves more as entertainment than anything else. We may have term limits, but that doesn't really do much when the wife of a previous President is running, and the son and brother of two previous Presidents is also running. It could very well be Clinton vs. Bush, and that's pretty depressing.

That being said, Bernie Sanders is awesome, and I hope he wakes everyone up.

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[–] AryanPony 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Lots of liberals we're swearing the same shit when bush was running for reelection.

Maybe he can say hi to them too. It's a wonder we have any voters left in this country with all the mass immigration to Canada. It's just you and me here buddy.

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[–] OmicronPersei8 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Just give it some time. According to game theory, any vote-for-one voting system will eventually turn into a two-party system.

Here is an illustration of how that happens

The solution is to use voting systems that are not susceptible to vote splitting. The necessary condition required to eliminate vote splitting is to allow voters to express their opinion on more than one candidate. There are many voting systems that do this, but the simplest is Approval Voting.

America is not lucky to have a two-party system, we're stuck with it.

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[–] Reddiggoat [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Goddammit I was just talking with my girlfriend at dinner about this and thought I had come up with the perfect solution. 38 years late and too lazy to publish anyways. This should be implemented at all levels ASAP!

As for the 2-party American system, are you really stuck or is it possible that some of your billionaires could pool a few bucks and some brains to form a legit third party?

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[–] OmicronPersei8 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Voting is a tricky subject because it is inherently paradoxical. It has been mathematically proven that a "perfect" voting system can not exist. Approval Voting is certainly better than a vote-for-one system in single-winner elections, but approval voting is not the end all, be all of voting systems. Here is a list of a few of the different voting methods that exist.

As for the 2-party American system, are you really stuck or is it possible that some of your billionaires could pool a few bucks and some brains to form a legit third party?

Ross Perot tried this in 1992. He received 19 million votes, and cost George H. W. Bush the election.

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[–] SecureRhino 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's not strictly any vote-for-one system, it's any vote-for-one single-winner voting system.

Germany for example uses proportional voting: everyone votes for one party, but the parties get seats proportional to the total number of votes. Parties with less than 5% of the vote don't get in. That leaves us with about 5 parties usually with each 10-40% of the vote. After the vote any number of parties can agree to work together to form the government, usually leading to a government consisting of two parties from the same side of the political spectrum.

Not exactly something you can use to elect the next president of the United States, but I feel it's important to mention that there's more out there than just single-winner systems.

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[–] OmicronPersei8 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Thank you, I'll make that distinction in the future.

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[–] 1100110 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Yeah don't be jealous. There is zero chance he'll be elected. So we're stuck with Hilary Clinton (shudders) or Donald Trump (oh god please no).

This will be the first election I vote in. As it looks now, I'll vote for the most popular candidate aside from them. Just to keep them out of office.

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[–] Surfing_Wookiee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I doubt Trump has a chance in hell, he's an entertaining sideshow, but he's far too polarizing to ever get the republican's nomination, since everyone knows he can't sway voters who don't already like him. My guess is the election'll be Jeb Bush vs Hillary Clinton

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[–] LostUnderTheMountain 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

well they have the same campaign donors so we get the same person either way... only bonus is hiliary can be the first woman president...... YEAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

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[–] 1100110 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

You know what I'd really like? A female presidential candidate who isn't a complete asshole of idiot.

I'm dissatisfied with the current dicks who'll inevitably be elected.

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[–] VillaLopez 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What he fails to mention is that even with 2 left party, and one left of center and one right party, is that the slightly left of center party has been dominate for a long time until the rights rise to power. Three parties is good, it allows for change and forces a party to be true to itself. The right wont hold power forever, and are starting to lose support. Then it will be somone on the lefts turn again.

2 party system is just BAD.

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[–] let_them_eat_slogans 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

In America you get to choose between the center-right candidate that leans left on social issues or the center-right candidate that leans right on social issues. I'll take the Canadian system over the joke that is the American system any day, thank you very much.

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[–] Reddiggoat [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Capitalism is good and necessary, but like all political ideologies it's bad when taken to extremes and a lot of us think it's now surpassed the critical mark. Regulated capitalism is possible if the government would actually start collecting taxes from corporations and off-shores.

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