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[–] oowensby 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Paper ballots, marked with a pencil, collected and counted in the presence of witnesses representing the candidates. How is this so hard to implement?

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[–] cynoclast [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

It's not, it's just hard to corrupt. Paper ballots by mail would be a better idea. Oregon does this and it's awesome. Sooooo convenient.

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[–] oowensby 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I am afraid that, if the ballots were not escorted and watched basically from the voter to the counting table, there would be too many opportunities for tampering. I note that you like the vote by mail Oregon system; but, I think it would be the easiest system to corrupt. Most voter fraud, that is actually caught in the US, is committed with absentee ballots — that can be mailed in.

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[–] seerick 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Why Pencil and not Pen? Just curious since Pen cannot be erased. Also, I agree - can't trust those machines, to much opportunity for fraud.

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[–] TalkingAnimal 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

All my adult life I've used a felt-tipped pen to vote. It works fine if I mess up my ballot, they give me a new one.

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[–] oowensby 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Pencils can be erased; but the erasures are obvious. Do you think that all voters are going to complete their ballots without making mistakes? If a pen was used, a whole ballot might have to be redone to avoid ambiguous marks that could be challenged by poll watchers.

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[–] gosso920 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

"I'm 'Landslide Lyndon' Johnson, and I approve this messaage."

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[–] oowensby 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I see what you did there.

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[–] hypercat ago 

Our machines print out 2 receipts with your recorded vote. One comes out of the machine with a scan code and the other is behind a thick plastic screen where you can review it and when you press done it rolls up into the machine, they have to keep the receipts for something like 7 years. Lots of storage but you could actually count all the votes again if needed.