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[–] irelandLost 2 points 15 points (+17|-2) ago 

What exists in Europe is not socialism. The system used in Sweden has never been socialist. European systems are called social democracies, which is what the system is in America too as it happens. The only time actual socialism has existed in Europe was the 70 years the east spent behind the iron curtain, and there are precious few testimonials from anyone out there regarding the benefits of socialism. I find it amusing how opposed to socialism Americans are considering very few of them actually appear to understand what it means. If ye understood it it would terrify you!

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[–] deathsquad 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Hitler's regime was deeply socialist. That's the inconvenient truth for the worshippers of the manlet vegetarian on here. Price and wage controls, state aquisition of corporations, state infiltration of unions via the SA, more regulation, seizures of private property, slave labor, state control over public health...

In fact it's difficult to separate the aims of the communist KPD from the Nazis, and Goebbels himself expressed difficulty with this situation.

It makes me cringe when the low IQ youth on here idolise Hitler under the pretense of traditionalist white nationalistvalues, when Hitler's entire platform was about destroying Prussian society and a federalised Europe much like the EU. He was also deeply influenced by Marx which he would only admit in private letters. If you cucks are looking for white nationalist icons then Prussian society was full of them. THAT is when Germany peaked.

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[–] Horrux ago 

Oh yeah because national socialism didn't create an "economic miracle", right?

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[–] Horrux ago  (edited ago)

"Social Democracies" as you so pedantly call them, are simply DEMOCRACIES with SOCIALIST programs and leanings in their governance structures.

But "some people" confuse hardcore, pure, even extremist socialism with ANY kind of socialism. I guess subtlety can't be learned? Or if it could, they would be the ones failing at it?

Bottom line is, most civilized countries have socialist measures in their governments, without enough of those, you have either totalitarianism on the government's part, or universal slavery on the "capitalist" part. Guess where the USA is headed to? =D

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[–] irelandLost 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Nope. Providing public services is not the same thing as socialising the means of production. Police force, public roads, public education, even public healthcare are not socialist systems because these are not really productive areas of the economy. Socialism is when productive areas of an economy are brought into collective control via the state. So the Norwegian oil industry would be an example of socialism, but the British NHS is not.

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[–] Horrux 7 points -5 points (+2|-7) ago 

Wrong on all counts. SMH.

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[–] irelandLost 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Strong retort, you certainly don’t seem to be a brainless, ignorant moron. Not even one little bit.