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[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
I appreciate the insights. The denomination problem is one major reason I left the Church. If we're just going to argue, we're better served being lawyers than Christians.
If you try to solve the denomination problem, you end of in Philosophy or Science, which only leaves Aesthetics for Christianity. The Aesthetics come down to taste, so as long as your Science is rational and your Philosophy logical, your Aesthetics are welcome but insufficient for my Metaphysics. I prefer Mathematical Aesthetics because it symbiotically serves the other two. The Cross is a cube or the intersection of a graph, but there is more to math than cubes and graphs.
@LexOrandiLexCredendi teaches me about Catholicism, but the church doesn't follow the Creed so it seems like exactly the thing Christ warned against. Orthodox seems like Greek Catholicism which schismed when Rohan abandoned Gondor. It's not recruiting, it's for Greek people or philhellenes.
[–] LexOrandiLexCredendi 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
It's much easier to see clearly if you look at the politics of each split. The Orthodox are about the closest to a legit argument, but even that was answered in later councils (Florence, I think). Luther was purely political. Henry VIII was sexual.
The Church does follow the creed, but you cannot expect sinful men to be perfect. The bottom line is this: was Jesus God Incarnate? Even the demons will tell you that. Again, back to Fr. Ripperger. Did He mean what He said when He said "You are Peter ... and upon this Rock I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it."
If Jesus' statement was false, than the Church is false and He is a liar and not the Son of God. If His statement is true, than the Church is the one true faith regardless of how sinful its members or leaders are.
[–] Joe_McCarthy 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
In the case of Henry VIII lack of a male heir in those days could very well have led to a disastrous 'War of the English Succession'. It was NOT just about what girls he wanted to fuck.
[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
Always appreciate the bread crumbs you leave for me. Definitely going to look up Florence council while driving deeper into Orthodox.
[–] bessarionofegypt ago
It's for everyone and actually believing that the church is for any one race of people has been condemned as a heresy, I am Anglo Saxon but I go to a Russian church, and also the Romans declared papal supremacy and that caused a schism which allowed them to continue changing their doctrines.