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[–] altident 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Literally nothing you said contradicts what I said. I have agreed that Islam in general is violent, and that many western Muslims live in ignorance of that. And here we are talking about a phrase uttered by a western Muslim, which is my entire point.
[–] SolidFoundations ago (edited ago)
No, because who I define as a western muslim and who you define as a western muslim are very different. Ilhan Omar is not a moderate. You may still think this is hair-splitting, but until you begin to recognise that there is no such thing as a moderate western muslim you will not understand.
Western muslims are either fundementalists (believe in all the koran and the hadiths), or not muslims at all. There are not different branches with some being moderate and others being extreme. Sunni, Shia all the same.
If you think I agreed with you, you should read a little closer.
My last edit should have made it a little clear, sorry for the confusion. I use the words, 'moderate muslim,' even though I don't think such a person exists.
[–] altident 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Still haven't contradicted anything I've said. Just because you and I know that "moderate Muslims" aren't real Muslims does not mean that they don't call themselves Muslims and also say things like "god is great" on twitter.
If Ilhan isn't one such ignorant Muslim, and is in fact a militant fundamentalist, I'd invite any evidence that supports the idea.