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[–] Broc_Lia [S] ago  (edited ago)

I've read the communist manifesto, is Das Kapital any better?

The arguments I've seen against capitalism are usually either arguments against government intervention in the market (which commies claim is the inevitable result of markets, not governments) or outright fantasies.

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[–] jollux 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'd say that Das Kapital is more important to read than the communist manifesto. It addresses quite a bit more points and sticks more to economic concerns rather than social. It can get repetitive, but at least dipping your toes in this book is crucial if you really want to get to communists in debate.

Note that he doesn't address arguments in the same manner that a capitalist does. He comes from a different angle, and understanding that is a big part of how to speak to communists. It lets you get to the foundations of their beliefs.

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[–] Broc_Lia [S] ago 

I get the emotional argumentation thing, he was good at making people feel cheated and that untold riches could be theirs if they tear society apart. Even just today I had a guy tell me (with a straight face) that Irish workers would be earning €120 an hour if they seize control of their industry.

I'll give Das Kapital a read. Thanks for the recommendation.