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[–] jollux 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You should read Das Kapital. I took a full course on communism in university, and it benefited me greatly. Now I know how to argue with communists better than anyone. One of my hobbies is hanging out in /r/LateStageCapitalism and nudging them in the right direction. Easier than you think.

I will say that the first book of Das Kapital provides an excellent analysis of the very real problems with capitalism. It's just that he goes on to provide idiotic solutions. The first book is the most important.

Here it is:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/

When you've finished at least the first volume of that, you can find the real solutions here:

https://www.nationalists.org/pdf/hitler/manifesto-for-abolition-enslavement-interest-on-money-gottfried-feder.pdf

If you buckle down with these, you'll never lose another argument.

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[–] Broc_Lia [S] ago  (edited ago)

I've read the communist manifesto, is Das Kapital any better?

The arguments I've seen against capitalism are usually either arguments against government intervention in the market (which commies claim is the inevitable result of markets, not governments) or outright fantasies.

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[–] jollux 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I'd say that Das Kapital is more important to read than the communist manifesto. It addresses quite a bit more points and sticks more to economic concerns rather than social. It can get repetitive, but at least dipping your toes in this book is crucial if you really want to get to communists in debate.

Note that he doesn't address arguments in the same manner that a capitalist does. He comes from a different angle, and understanding that is a big part of how to speak to communists. It lets you get to the foundations of their beliefs.